"Linguistic??... would this be acceptable with you?" 
 No it is not! You know neither Hebrew or Greek, therefore you are unprepaired to make an authoritative comment or response.  Lets use the words we have been given in scripture!  That would mean Hebrew and Greek!  Everything else is translation and interpretation. Which brings us to the root of the problem; divisive people bent on having the last and ONLY word.  The,"Everyone else can go squat, because they are wrong" mentality.
  What a sickening and disturbing way to be. We must strive over the ENGLISH words of our translations to get to the true meaning, thats what we are told by Rav Sha'ul in his epistle to Timothy,"Study to show yourself approved..."   CONTEXT,CONTEXT, CONTEXT, without putting a 21st century spin, or personal agenda on everything.  And yes I have an agenda, to understand scripture in the context in which it was written, from the Hebraic mindset scripture was written in. Like it or not, when you remove the Hebraic background from scripture, you get the muddy field we now struggle to get through.  And most of the divisive mud-slinging with which we (most of us here) are forced to sift through in order to gain a few pearls here and there.
We will never (this side of Heaven) come to a full agreement on many issues here, but must we be plagued with self-righteous blather that causes nothing but division?
Jeff
 
Life makes warriors of us all.
To emerge the victors, we must arm
ourselves with the most potent of weapons.
That weapon is prayer.
--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov
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Thus endeth the lesson ('til you engage in some linguistic homework)
 
jt: Linguistic?? I don't see the problem as being one of language. In fact, we are warned against striving over words  in scripture
Why can't we agree to use the words we have been given in scripture and pray to God for understanding. Would this be acceptable
with you?
 

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