Plato via Plotinus through Augustine into the way of seeing for some. Aristotle via Aquinas into the way of seeing for others. The effect of ancient Greek philosophy/philosophers on the Christian thought of some is of great, great importance. It reflects PAGANISM writ large. It is present and it is harmful!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: December 22, 2004 05:10 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Hebrew Mindset > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete > Sent: Tuesday, 21 December, 2004 19.54 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Hebrew Mindset > > > 2. In eschatology, there is the idea that there is no heaven we inherit, > > but that this earth and what is here and observable with the physical > > senses is all there is to reality. The promises of God are all viewed as > > belonging to earth and only the literal earthly fulfillment is in view, > > much like the Jehovah's Witnesses share in their eschatology. Of course, > > as with monism, not all Hebrews viewed it this way. The Pharisees are an > > example of a sect of Hebrews who were more like the Greeks in their way of > > thinking. As you know, the Greeks got their views about the immortality > > of the soul and the existence of angels and monotheism (One God) from > > Plato. Rather than the seen world being what is real, it is the unseen > > world. Remember Plato's talk of "forms"? Early church fathers like > > Justin Martyr argued that Plato got his views from Moses. > > > The interesting thing here is that the early Hebrews often considered > > their culture to be superior to that of others. They had pride in the > > fact that they were descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We see > > similar tendencies expressed here from various members on this list who > > think that anything other than the ancient Hebrew mindset is sure to fall > > into deception and gross misunderstanding. The feeling that the Hebrew > > mindset is superior becomes so strong that it often becomes a basis for > > fellowship and for discernment of right and wrong. It even leads to the > > rejection of Greek words, so that "Peter" as a name is rejected and > > replaced with "Cephas" instead. The name "Paul" is rejected and replaced > > with "Sha'ul." The name "Jesus" is rejected and replaced with "Yeshua" or > > "Yahshua." The general idea is that if it is Hebrew it is good and of > > God, but if it is from Greek origin it is bad. Therefore, start thinking > > and talking like a Hebrew and you will find godliness. :-) Get the idea? > > > >Are they serious about this? You mean I am going to have to learn Greek > and > >Hebrew to grow in grace? > > >Pete > > ------------------------------------------- > > Good morning, Mr. Ad Hominem... oops, I mean DavidM. Thank you for climbing > into my head and explaining the cogs and gears you see from within. God > bless you for straightening Pete... and me out. I had no idea I should have > been looking to Plato. Was he one of the Elders who ate with God on the > mountain? Silly me. Oh, and Pete... Your reply has really helped me as well. > 'Preciate it. Now I know I can't use Yeshua any more. 'Guess I gotta use > Jeezus now! > > -- slade > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
