Lance writes: Plato via Plotinus through Augustine into the way of
seeing for some.
Aristotle via Aquinas into the way of seeing for others.
The effect of
ancient Greek philosophy/philosophers on the Christian
thought of some is of
great, great importance. It reflects PAGANISM writ
large. It is present and
it is harmful!
> From: Pete
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 December, 2004
19.54
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Hebrew Mindset
>
>
> 2. In eschatology, there is the idea that there is no heaven
we
inherit,
> > but that this earth and what is here and
observable with the physical
> > senses is all there is to
reality. The promises of God are all viewed
as
> >
belonging to earth and only the literal earthly fulfillment is in
view,
> > much like the Jehovah's Witnesses share in their
eschatology. Of
course,
> > as with monism, not all
Hebrews viewed it this way. The Pharisees are
an
> >
example of a sect of Hebrews who were more like the Greeks in their
way
of
> > thinking. As you know, the Greeks got their
views about the immortality
> > of the soul and the existence of
angels and monotheism (One God) from
> > Plato. Rather than
the seen world being what is real, it is the unseen
> >
world. Remember Plato's talk of "forms"? Early church fathers
like
> > Justin Martyr argued that Plato got his views from
Moses.
>
> > The interesting thing here is that the early
Hebrews often considered
> > their culture to be superior to that
of others. They had pride in the
> > fact that they were
descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We see
> > similar
tendencies expressed here from various members on this list who
> >
think that anything other than the ancient Hebrew mindset is sure
to
fall
> > into deception and gross misunderstanding. The
feeling that the Hebrew
> > mindset is superior becomes so strong
that it often becomes a basis for
> > fellowship and for
discernment of right and wrong. It even leads to the
> >
rejection of Greek words, so that "Peter" as a name is rejected and
>
> replaced with "Cephas" instead. The name "Paul" is rejected
and
replaced
> > with "Sha'ul." The name "Jesus" is rejected and
replaced with "Yeshua"
or
> > "Yahshua." The general idea
is that if it is Hebrew it is good and of
> > God, but if it is
from Greek origin it is bad. Therefore, start
thinking
> >
and talking like a Hebrew and you will find godliness. :-) Get
the
idea?
> >
> >Are they serious about this? You
mean I am going to have to learn Greek
> and
> >Hebrew to
grow in grace?
>
> >Pete
>
>
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>
> Good morning,
Mr. Ad Hominem... oops, I mean DavidM. Thank you for
climbing
>
into my head and explaining the cogs and gears you see from within.
God
> bless you for straightening Pete... and me out. I had no idea I
should
have
> been looking to Plato. Was he one of the Elders who
ate with God on the
> mountain? Silly me. Oh, and Pete... Your reply
has really helped me as
well.
> 'Preciate it. Now I know I can't
use Yeshua any more. 'Guess I gotta use
> Jeezus now!
>
>
-- slade
>
> ----------
> "Let your speech be always with
grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
know how you ought to answer
every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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