'tangentially escalting posts' What a great understanding you have of Mr.
Miller.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: December 22, 2004 21:13
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited


> We do misunderstand each other. [SOMEtimes it's almost comical.] You see
the
> teaching of Greek Dualism [in Rom 7 & 8]. I see Paul using terms familiar
to
> a Gentile audience. I do not find the two chapters difficult, but I also
> don't have the chutzpah to deal with it in a thread with you. If that is
not
> a "spirit of meekness" to you, then I don't know what to say. You are the
> hardest person for me to debate because I generally don't have the time
> necessary to deal with tangentially escalating posts. Please accept my
> sincere apologies. I think I might study it in depth soon... you know...
to
> even understand my perspective more.
>
> You asked me not to take your comments so personally because they were
> pointed at others. However, please read back and you will discover the
> points you were "putting down" were made on this board. I think you can
see
> why I would believe your comments were directed at me. Even JD sensed a
> "dig" there when he said, "I am hoping that we are not having fun at
> anyone's expense." It's often hard to make a point "against" without it
> affecting someone and I understand this. By the way, your comments
regarding
> me being moderate are appreciated. (Some at the congregation in Wisconsin
> criticized me and even suggested my ousting because I did not "lay down
the
> law" in regards to Torah Observance and other issues not worthy of your
> time.)
>
> By the way, I am not insulted nor am I "teed off," though I will admit to
> occasional bouts of frustration which sometimes is released as sarcasm.
You
> have no idea what I've dealt with in the past. The beginning of my Faith
was
> one terrible battle after another -- the urge to "give up" was incredible.
> What TruthTalk provides [as far as ribbing goes] is mild in comparison.
>
> By the way, You see Hebrew Mindset being placed on a pedestal. I see more
> people calling it cultic and dangerous.
>
> -- slade
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December, 2004 10.39
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited
>
> You greatly misunderstand me, Slade.  Romans 7 & 8 teach the Greek dualism
> of man.  Paul was an apostle to the Gentiles, a group of people who were
> more familiar with Plato and Aristotle than Abraham and Moses.  All the
buzz
> words are there that shows Paul to side more with the doctrine of the
> Greeks, the Pharisees, and Yeshua, rather than the general Hebrew mindset
> established by the Sadducean sect of the Hebrews.  If you do not see any
> distinction in man between flesh and mind and spirit, then it seems from
my
> perspective that you would find these two chapters of the Bible to be very
> difficult to understand.  If that is not the case, then my comment was a
> brief invitation for you to share your perspective on these chapters.  Of
> course, your answer of just saying that they don' t pose any challenge to
> you is very helpful to me as well.  It helps me keep my mind open to
hearing
> other things that you might say that would give me some glimmer of
> understanding of your viewpoint.
>
> Personally, I cannot understand how the Sadducees cannot believe in the
> spirit of man and in angels.  I find some of your stated beliefs equally
> perplexing and hope that one day you will feel comfortable enough to share
> with us in the spirit of meekness what you believe.
>
> Slade wrote:
> > He likewise is here to show how people will
> > take the Hebrew Mindset argument and spin
> > it around and claim that I claim superiority.
>
> Again, you grossly misunderstand my comments.  I did not have you in mind
> regarding this point.  I almost mentioned you as an exception, and now I
> wish I did.  I had in mind the Hebrews of Christ's day and also other
> Messianics and Jews who believe in Jesus.  I have been very pleased to see
> you able to correspond with others in this forum who use Hellenized or
Latin
> nouns.  I consider you to be very moderate in regards to my comments and
> truly an exception, not an example.
>
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