Slade is right
Terry. You are being completely pagan here and above all talking
absolute nonsense.
jt: I'm sure Terry
can answer for himself but you are not being fair to him.
God is not violating
a rule (as you call it) that humans function under by not having a
mother. That is called anthropological theology (man to God). It
uses what we experience and then slaps it onto God making Him experience
exactly what we experience. True Christianity works the other way around
(theological anthropology � God to man).
jt: Isn't what Bill
writes below the same thing ... ie: what you call "anthropological theology?"
Bill: Philipians 2.5-11. You
misunderstand the kenosis, the question being What does it mean that
the Son "empied" himself? (I use the term "Son" interchangeably with Jesus
Christ here because as we see in verse 11 he did this -- the kenosis --
to the "glory of God the Father." Just as the Son is the eternal
Son of the Father, the Father is the eternal Father of the Son. If there
were a time when the Son was not, then there must also have been a time when
the Father was not: Are you willing to go this far, Judy?)
Using your line of
reasoning you could ask, Who was the Father�s father or mother? Who was
the Spirit�s mother? That makes just as much logical sense as asking who
was the mother of Jesus that predates Mary? Shall we ask who His
grandmother was as well? Complete and utter nonsense.
jt: No more
nonsensical than going on and on about the Son of the Father and the Father of
the Son...
It astounds me that
the fundamentalists on this forum (Terry, Izzy, Judy and David) are all
disagreeing with what has been considered one of the more important articles
of faith by orthodoxy. It is the liberals (Bill, Lance, John, and
myself) along with the Messianic Jews (Slade, Kay, and Jeff) who are having
to teach you what you should already be rock solid on. This should
be your bread and water. Instead you cannibalize your own faith.
It is a sad day when even the fundamentalists have no idea what they
believe and why. I keep pinching myself and hope that I am
dreaming. Alas, I am not. Jonathan
jt: Looks like some
of us will be those who sometime in the near future are going to say "Lord,
Lord!!" and be the ones Jesus claimed never to have known...
From:
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On Behalf Of Terry
Clifton
Sent: Monday,
December 27, 2004 9:24 PM
To:
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Idioms and
Figures of Speech
Slade Henson wrote:
who has always been the eternal
mother?
Completely pagan.
Get out of Titles and get into Function and the problem
disappears.
-
slade
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I
don't quite understand. Is it pagan to ask a sensible question?
I don't have a problem. Those who disagree with me have the
problem. They cannot come up with any mother of Jesus that predates
Mary. God does not violate His own rules. It takes a father and a
mother to make a son.
Think about
that.
Terry
