RE: [TruthTalk] Are there any bad Christian's in the House?

[Jonathan Hughes]

Izzy,   Here is what I see you saying here.  Please correct me if I am wrong: If a Christian sins they become a non-Christian and go to hell.  It is like you have some fairy tale image that a Christian NEVER practices hypocrisy, deceit, and dishonesty.  Are all scriptures against sin in the Bible for non-Christians?  All pleas for holiness?  All scriptures against lying just for those who do not know Christ?  No continual walk of sanctification, each day holier than the one before, each day putting behind yet more childish things, being refined by God’s fire?  If Godly living is something Christians just naturally do then why the constant appeal to it in scripture?  Do I need to list all the people’s names on TruthTalk and then put the appropriate moniker beside them (hypocrite, deceiver, liar)?  Everyone of us would have all three.  Everyone.  And yet we are all believers.  Believers DO these things.  It is hopeful that they do them less than non-Christians.  Last time I looked those that were closest to Jesus did these things too.   Jonathan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:51 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Are there any bad Christian's in the House?       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:12 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Are there any bad Christian's in the House?     Izzy wrote:   Bill, this is NOT something of which one should accuse a Believer, as Believers do NOT do these things (hypocrisy, the deceit, the dishonesty).  Izzy   Jonathan responds, attempting to keep himself reined in:  Are you kidding me?  Christians are not hypocrites, deceitful or dishonest?  You obviously have never met a Christian then.  You have also never looked in the mirror.  If you truly think this you are living in a make-believe Candy-Land world.    Happy place, happy place, take me to my happy place.   Jonathan   J,  my ex once accused me of living in “La-La Land”.  I told him “I’d rather live in La-La Land than in hell with you.”   I rarely meet a real Christian.  Most just talk the talk, but don’t walk the walk. Jesus said they would be few and far between, as they are on the narrow road.  The road is broad that leads to hell. I’m sure you don’t want to hear any “scripture bombs” regarding what Jesus had to say about who is real and who is fake. Izzy --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004