Ahhhh, gotta love that line!  "Is you is or is you ain't" I think the redneck's and some of the biker element on TT will remember this line and appreciate it in a new light! Thanks John!
Jeff
 
Life makes warriors of us all.
To emerge the victors, we must arm
ourselves with the most potent of weapons.
That weapon is prayer.
--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Let's get clear on this one -- please

In a message dated 12/28/2004 6:11:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

"Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world." (John 17.24)
 
judy:  Bill I don't mind you disagreeing with me but John 17:24 in no way validates this "Eternal Son" doctrine - nor does it say anything precisely about the Son's relationship with the Father.


What John 17:24 conveys is the existence of the Father - Son relationship from the foundations of the world.   It does not explain how God can be a Father without a marriage contract, without a wife, without a mother to His children.    It does not explain how it is that God the Father is our Only Parent.   It does not explain ANYTHING.  It just affirms the Father - Son relationship.  

I love it when the very best rebuttal is the simple quoting and requoting of scripture.  Either you is a believer or you ain't. 

John

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