Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

[Lance Muir]

I do understand that you don't understand. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2005 07:12 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth Another pointless cryptic response from Lance.  (Maybe I should avoid him?) I have NO IDEA why you bothered to write this. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:51 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth   There are some people who don't like me therefore, they avoid me. Go figure?   ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 01, 2005 16:22 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth   Lance how do you explain the meaning of 2 Tim 2:19? Do you believe there are those �who are His�, and therefore those who are not His? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 11:42 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth   The term 'separation from God' is both deadly nomenclature and, untrue. There wasn't, isn't and, won't be anywhere He's not. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 01, 2005 11:45 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth   Lance, not ALL who are created by God belong to Him.  It is our free-will choice, as He is not a puppeteer: 2 Tim 2:   <SUP id=en-NASB-29847>19Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, " The Lord knows those who are His," and, " Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness."       <SUP id=en-NASB-29848>20Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor.       <SUP id=en-NASB-29849>21Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work. Yes.   Universalism verses Universality. JD   John, please elaborate (again) on what you see as the difference.  I still can�t see much.  Izzy