RE: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture

[ShieldsFamily]

I’m afraid I “get it” more than you realize, Lance. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:20 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture   My position(s) on all of these have been previously spoken with sufficient clarity. The 'glasses' that you wear are sufficient for seeing what you need to 'see'. They do not, however, apparently permit you to see how other people see 'differently'. Don't 'sweat it'. It's no 'biggy'. On some occasions you just won't 'get it'. The fault, dear Brutus... ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2005 07:09 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:44 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture   When I said something like 'there wasn't, there isn't and won't be ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OF GOD', I meant that to trump any biblical 'counter reference whatsoever' Therefore, one needs to differently understand (quaint ain't it?) 'separation'. I believe in universality not, universalism (so far).   I believe God to be 'unconditional in love'. I believe God to be unconditional in forgiveness'. When we read Scripture we ought to 'indwell' through to the HEART OF GOD. Biblicists beware! You 'wrest' s(small s)cripture to your own...(whatever).    Lance, help me out here.  By “universality” I think you are saying that everyone is saved UNLESS they actively choose to reject Christ.  (Whatever that means, I’m not sure.  If they just ignore Him, have they rejected Him?  Or do they have to say, “I reject Christ”, or what???) If that is true, why have any missionaries? Why tell anyone about Christ? What possible difference could it make eternally?   Upon what scripture do you find that God has “unconditional love” and NO judgment?  Is He not both completely loving AND completely just?   How can one POSSIBLY “indwell through to the heart of God” by denying His Word?  To ignore His words is done at one’s own peril.    Does your theology require any conversion to Christ? Or is one considered Born converted until otherwise stated? Izzy