So then, after some 20+ centuries of reading/living Scripture ya dunno? (Slade, Kay, Jeff:40+ centuries) Do you devalue that which and those who've gone before? I'm hoping that both form and content matter to all.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: January 03, 2005 18:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me > Jonathan wrote: > > I am continually astounded that those who have > > been termed 'liberals' on this forum are the only > > ones who hold to orthodox Christianity, that which > > the church catholic has decreed for millennia. > > The more we discuss the more we see how the > > 'non-liberals' spurn the faith of apostles. > > Faith of the apostles? Reconsider your history a little, please. Your > doctrine of the Godhead is not the doctrine of the apostles. You are > arguing from fourth century wrangles of men. Even when the Nicean creed was > first adopted, the churches did not follow it. Athanasius was exiled again > and again and again because of his extreme view of the Godhead. Following > the council of Nicea, the church was primarily Arian for the rest of > Athanasius's life with only a few years of reprieve for him here and there. > The part of the creed that you want to emphasize did not even exist in it > until a decade after Athanasius had died. > > The doctrine I hold is the doctrine of the apostles of Christ. I challenge > you to find any apostle anywhere that contradicts my teaching on anything. > > The doctrine of the apostles does not focus upon the nature of the Godhead. > That is like arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. > The doctrine of the apostles is that which declares who Jesus is, the > Messiah, and its emphasis is on men turning away from sin to believe upon > Christ and keep his commandments. No apostle ever uttered: "believe in the > eternal Father and eternal Sonship doctrine or be damned." > > Let me reiterate again. I have not taken a position on the eternal sonship > doctrine one way or the other. I'm exploring the viewpoint. I believe that > there is liberty to ask questions about the nature of the Godhead and to > seek to understand it through discussion. You seem to want to resort to > declarations of dogma and hit anyone who does not conform with cries of > "foul... unorthodox... departing from the faith of the apostles... etc." > Would you consider allowing us to think and discuss instead of insisting > that we conform to questionable fourth century dogma? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
