Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

[Judy Taylor]

Teachable and unreachable must be one and the same in your economy Lance because you reject everything but trinitarian orthodoxy and give no scriptural reason why.  Jesus told us His Word is what will bear eternal fruit. He is our example and during His earthly ministry He didn't appear to be very open structured and theologically flexible to me..   On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:37:04 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Actually, slowly once again, I'm coming to understand that what God MEANS is what you & David say he MEANS. i AM TEACHABLE, YOU KNOW.  From: Judy Taylor What if I don't believe that God is "open structured and theologically flexible?" even though He is unwilling for any to perish and even if His mercy does endure forever... He don't play - He says what He means and means what He says so why play fast and loose with His Words.   On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:11:58 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: No Judy, you tell 'em. Remember, he's got a stick in his hand. From: Judy Taylor Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Tell that to the man who was out there picking up sticks on the Sabbath.   On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:40:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I do believe that G_d is more 'open structured' (read theologically flexible) than most of His disciples. From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org I think Slade has his thoughts on it more "thought out"...does that make sense? He's studied the issue in depth due to some anti-missionary problems we've run into in the past. I don't know what Jeff's thoughts are.  K.  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Lance Muir It is becoming clear that 'othodox trinitarians' are a minority on TT. Kay: Do Slade and Jeff believe as you on this? From: Slade Henson God is one, Scripture says so. God has many different aspects or manifestations....   I still haven't found any reference to trinity in Scripture. What I truly think is that some dude tried to make God more understandable to our very limited minds and taught us about the three in one. Makes sense to me to make a midrash out of something hard to understand. I'd like to know when the trinity concept actually came into being with Christians. I know Judaism has an aspect of it somewhere way back in time....   Kay -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 03 January, 2005 18.22 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement In a message dated 1/3/2005 1:26:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Denouncing trinity? I didn't know there was such a Biblical term in the first place. I think David has a problem here.    If you are not denying God in Trinity by refusing to consider Christ as the Eternal Son,   how can we say that Messianics deny God the Reality by asserting the oneness of God?   John