----- Original Message -----
Sent: January 04, 2005 08:15
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within
the Messianic Movement
Good food for thought Kay - I know there is
nothing we can do about when babies decide to make an appearance but don't you
think that if dad knows the birth is any day now that he could prepare? God
doesn't require of us more than we can give and there was another aspect to
the Sabbath for Israel and this is the Covenant with Moses; the Sabbath was
given for a sign so that man was a Covenant breaker also. It was God who
said he should be stoned after the ppl had apprehended him not knowing what to
do. So it appears as though he was made a public example of what not to
do. Is this called "control by fear?" I've experienced rebellion
first hand also and think seeing a public stoning would have had an impact.
WDYT?
I
think he very could be that nutty. We see nuttiness like that every day. It's
called rebellion. We do things everyday just because our parents say no, our
doctor says no, etc. Doc says...no more cantaloupe...you'll have a severe
reaction and what happens? We crave cantaloupe. Mom says: Don't smoke dope,
your brain will go mushy. We say...REALLY? Let's find
out....The reference to the fire going is very
good....however, the command on that is not to KINDLE a fire on the Sabbath.
If he already had a fire going, it would be okay to keep it going, especially
if it was cold. Scenario: It's cold and a baby was just born in the camp. It
happens to be Sabbath. Dad wants to be able to keep his newborn babe warm and
goes and gathers sticks. If baby isn't kept warm, he will die. I don't think
God would kill dad....saving life supercedes Sabbath law. I also believe
GIVING (I don't know if that's the right word I want) life supercedes. I've
had several of my children born on Sabbath. That's certainly work to me....but
there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop labor once it's started!
Kay
Surely he wasn't that "nutty" - I see him
as someone who was lacked the fear of God [like Korah] and followed after
his flesh which the Law was there to curb. It's human nature to
want to be on top of the game or two steps ahead of everyone else so this
fellow was pushing the envelope and I don't think he really believed that
God was going to do anything about it; I heard someone once say 'you know
if he was getting wood that he had a fire going somewhere and so that's
probably not all he was doing. jt
The man picking up sticks was probably doing it to flip the bird to
God. That's very different than attempting to beautify the
campground. K.
