RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

[Slade Henson]

Sorry, Dave, but we don't celebrate Christmas. The next Holy day coming up is Passover....would you like to attend our family Seder?   Kay -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 02.34 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DAVEH:  Though I suspect I do have many friends on TT, I failed to receive any invitations to Christmas dinner this year.....   :-)     In years past however, there were times when the discussions centered on whether or not I would be welcome in the homes of some TTers.  I suspect there were a few TTers who thought I might be hiding a tail and horns under my hat and cloak.  Maybe they still reside on TT....I don't know.  But it matters not, Izzy.  Most TT folks are relatively kind to me nowadays.  Some probably still suspicion me to be a threat, and are acting in accordance, I suppose....but that is their problem, not mine.     FWIW....I've always tried to be up front with my beliefs.  When folks ask, I try to respond with a cogent answer, sometimes inflicting a dose of humor with my replies.  At least Terry and perhaps a few others seemingly appreciate that.  But I'm pretty sure nobody on TT gives any credence to my beliefs or skewed view of various passages in the Bible I've quoted over the years.  I'm sure my LDS bias turns most folks off....and, I understand that.  But...I'm still curious as to how some of you folks view the passages I quote....That's why I bring them up now and then.  I just wish more of you would not be so reluctant to share your thoughts though.  As you should know, I'm not out to stab anybody in the back if you misspeak or get it wrong even by Protestant standards....I'm just curious as to what you believe and why you believe it the way you do.  Nor do I expect any of you to agree with me, but I do appreciate your respectful replies to my questions and posts.  Even if you don't consider this Mormon boy to be a Christian, I thank you for allowing me to enjoy the fellowship of TT. In a message dated 1/10/2005 12:13:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slade Henson wrote: So, you're saying...yes, you believe in multiple gods, DAVEH:  Yes........does not the Bible suggest likewise?  Look at PS 82:6...... I have said, ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. .......Now, most Protestants will claim that the term god was not used correctly here---that it really means judges (vs 1).  However, IF that were accurate, what logic would prevail for Jesus to use vs 6 as a defense........ Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? ...........against those who sought to incriminate him as making himself as God (Jn 10:33).    So, yes....I believe the Bible supports that there are multiple Gods, but because of the propensity of the Israelites to forget the God who brought them salvation, the emphasis was put on their worship of ONE GOD. but you only worship only ONE God? DAVEH:  Yes....Our Heavenly Father. Or LDS believe in multiple gods and YOU personally only worship/believe in one? DAVEH:  I/we accept there are many, but I/we worship only one. Do you think the Trinity doctrine is worshipping three Gods? DAVEH:  No....not necessarily.  I think the T-Doctrine obfuscates the nature of God so that those who accept the T-Doctrine really don't understand what they do worship.    For instance.....I believe Jesus has a body of flesh and bones, which the Bible proclaims emphatically.  Yet I can't tell you how many times I've found Protestants find it hard to accept that fact.  I believe it is because they've become steeped in the T-Doctrine suggestion that God is everywhere, but nowhere and is only in spirit form.    When you think of Jesus, Kay, do you think of him as a living being consisting of a spirit clothed with flesh and bone?  Do you think that characterization compliments the T-Doctrine, or is it in conflict with it? Kay Slade Henson wrote:                                                                                                                             All I did was read the definition. As Christian is defined, lots of denominations would be included. Are you saying that Dave believes in multiple gods? DAVEH:  Yes...... but I believe we are only to worship one God.  IMHO the Bible supports my belief, but a lot of folks have gotten sidetracked by the T-Doctrine. Kay Woops...that was me, Dave, not Slade. I forgot to sign it. I would say LDS folks fall under the Christian category. Kay Kay, I find it amazing that you believe that a believer in multiple gods is a Christian. How do you figure? izzy -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.