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[Judy Taylor]

I find your response offensive Lance but am not surprised - some ppl excel in the art of the putdown but this is not a Christlike trait.  I am disappointed as I expected more from DavidM [Looks like I have been wrong about some things, possibly others as well].  As for glorying in education, mine is as good as that of any disciple but why should it matter?  We are not here to fellowship around education - or are we?   We'd do better to emulate Paul who counted it all loss for the sake of Christ  "I count all things  but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ and be found in him .... that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable to his death"    Note: This is the power that overcomes sin in the life of the believer. You can search for him in theological books if you like. I will seek to fellowship with Him in His Own Word. I want to know what HE says, not what someone says about Him.   Jesus said "Blessed art thou Simon Barjona for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven" [Matt 16:17]   Paul said "I certify you, brethren that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man, for I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of jesus Christ" [Gal 1:10]   JESUS CHRIST, THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOREVER.....     From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Based on the foregoing I may have to retract my comment on David's ability with children. At least two gold stars go on the fridge for this one.   From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Judy wrote: > > I disagree with your assessment that Gary's > > comment was similar to mine. For one thing > > I don't ever enquire of Gary; but Lance was > > pondering this question and I did not reply in > > jest (sorry that it sounded that way). > > Ok, you make a good point here.  Your response was solicited by Lance, > whereas Gary's comment was not solicited by inquiry, but rather it was > offered perhaps with the motive of expressing contempt.  The problem is that > we really can't judge his motives, so perhaps we should just give him the > benefit of the doubt, even though his post was not solicited by you. > > Judy wrote: > > I sincerely believe that holding to this cosmic incarnation > > belief that he has spoken of is similar to being stuck in > > an expanded kind of "positional truth" which when not > > walked out daily becomes static - a doctrine by which > > one will never be conformed to the image of Christ or > > overcome. > > Then a less personal _expression_ would be something like, "from my > perspective, a person who embraces this cosmic incarnation belief will get > stuck in a time warp...," and continue with the rest of what you said.  I > really don't like curbing the freedom of people to express themselves in > their own way, so I certainly am not putting this on you in this particular > case, but we should recognize that when we make posts personal, people often > respond in a personal way back, and this is what causes a thread to lose > focus on the original topic and degrade into a boxing match between two > people.  That gets rather boring for the rest of the list, or even worse, > distasteful.  So, why not just try and be as impersonal as we can in our > speech here?  Instead of saying, "YOU..." say "This doctrine has such and > such effect"? > > Judy wrote: > > If you David do (as you say) believe 1 Corinthians > > 2:16 as well as 2 Corinthians 5:17 - then stereotyping > > someone the way Gary has done is a contradiction. > > I think you are still missing the point he was trying to make.  In higher > levels of education, people READ other scholars.  If a person rejects > reading the other scholars, that person is attempting to stay at a lower > level of education.  That may not be bad.  Smith Wigglesworth was a man of > God that I highly respect, and he never read any book but the Bible.  And > furthermore, if we accept Gary's assessment about your educational level, > then my perspective toward him would be, why don't you take it a little > easier on the person who you recognize does not have the educational > background that you have.  Those who beat up intellectually upon others less > educated than them are in my opinion, intellectual bullies. > > By the way, Judy, what is your educational level?  Have you graduated from > high school?  Any college?  Any post graduate degrees? > > Judy wrote: > > ... what I take exception to is giving the voice of man > > (read theologians and church fathers) more authority > > than God's Word. > > I agree.  Good point. > > Judy wrote: > > The KJV Bible is written two grades higher than Gary > > gives me credit for. It is on a 10th Grade level ... > > Actually, it depends upon what studies you look at, and what year the study > was done.  The Flesch-Kincaid formula assigns a 5th grade (11 year old) > reading level.  See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Bible > > If we take this study, then Gary was being gracious and giving you three > grades higher than your favorite book. :-) > > Judy wrote: > > ... but this should not make one whit of a difference > > to the spiritually minded since God is prone to hide > > things from the wise and prudent only to reveal them > > to babes. > > Excellent point! > > Not many wise and noble are called. > > Isn't the Holy Spirit wonderful?  The Lord can take an idiot fisherman with > a sixth grade education, fill him with the Holy Ghost, and make him more > knowledgeable and more wise than a man with ten Ph.D.'s.  Our God is > wonderful and has a fine sense of humor. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. >     ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org   If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.