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Tencious and blunt maybe but supercillious?? I
don't pick up any air of superiority about Kevin at all. Are you aware Lance
that ppl like him turned England around during the 18th Century. These men were
evangelists who were not wealthy or highly connected; they didn't have money to
buy adherents or family influence to command attention and respect. They
did Christ's work the old apostolic way. They were bold and did not
fear the face of man. I've read that the ppl in high places made it known
that they despised them. The educated class sneered at them as fanatics; the
humorists made jokes and invented sarcastic names for them, and the Church of
England shut the doors and gave them the cold shoulder..
These men preached fervently and directly
proclaiming the words of faith with faith. They taught
the corruption of human nature rather than the modern notion that Christ is
in every man and that all possess something good within that just needs stirring
up - their first step toward making men good was to show them that they
were bad.. The reformers of the 18th century taught that Christ's
death upon the cross was the ONLY satisfaction for man's sin... and they turned
England around. The Truth will make men free... Why stone the
messenger?
Have you heard Kevin preach to the Mormons in Salt Lake
City Lance? jt
Kevin says: 'They will not change by skilled
reasoning.' Please describe the nature of the content of your own posts, Kevin.
Are we witnessing the wisdom of God or, the
wisdom of Kevin? If a Mormon I, I'd be quite unmoved. On the whole they
(your arguments) are quite
supercillious.
They will not change by skilled reasoning.
God's way is
For after that in the wisdom of God the world
by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to
save them that believe.
Try it Please God, get some saved
It works, we have had many saved and join a local congregation in
SLC
**note subject change**
I'm aware of organizations who call
themselves 'Ex-Mormons for Jesus.' I have audio lectures delivered by such
persons. The circumstances underlying their 'change' are many and,
varied.
Are there organizations who call themselves
'Ex-evangelicals (now Mormon) for Jesus? Will someone tell us of them by
name. I'd like to hear their 'story'.
Do you all realize how unlikely it is,
naturally speaking, that persons occupying a faith tradition antithetical
to yours will ever leave it? My goodness, just look at the conversations
BETWEEN 'professing' believers. Some put forward skilled and articulate
arguments for ...(whatever). When did you last see someone respond with,
'by jove I believe I'll change my mind on this!'? It hasn't happened and
it ain't gonna happen.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 03, 2005 06:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer in
Evangelism
The truth horns are for large crowds or areas with lots of
Noise
Did you see the presidents State of the Union address?
Is that the only legitimate use of amplification?
Free Speech carries with it the right to be
heard. Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
G,
My
question to Blaine was in response to his knocking SP's, particularly
those at the LDS GC and their methods. I thought it would be
interesting to find out what he thinks would be the best way to
evangelize Mormons. While sending out missionaries two by may two
work in peoples homes, it is not practical in a public open-air
setting. Dave brought up prayer and bullhorns. Prayer is not how
the Bible tells us people come to faith. While I believe tht
praying for those you wish to come to faith is useful, Paul tells
us that preaching is the way people hear the word of God. Paul made
good on this himself, as did most of the Aposles. As for
bullhorns, I must agree that if someone came into my house with a
bullhorn and began to preach, I would not like it. But, if they
needed to be heard over background noise, hecklers, or other noise
in an outdoor setting, I think bullhorns are a good
tool.
Perry
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To:
[email protected] >To:
[email protected] >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer in
Evangelism >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:28:38
-0700 > > >there are *evangelical approaches to
evangelizing* on which not all >evangelicals are agreeing, so
what is *evangelical evangelizing*? > >..also, how many
street preachers involved in the SLC events discussed on >TT are
evangelical/s? > >e.g., what about Kevin's position on
'evangelicals'; maybe he prefers to >be understood in a
non-evangelical category > >..well, ftr perhaps Perry
would delve into the background of his question >to BB,
below(?) > >also, ppl like Kevin, perhaps other street
preachers, too, will want to >distinguish themselves on this
underlying issue--we'll see > >G > > >On
Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:09:34 -0800 Dave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: >|| > > > >
DAVEH: Perry, I assume your reply means you really are not
looking > > for an answer to your question posed at the very
bottom[*]..to know how > > > to *evangelize*
Mormons. >||... >||... >[*]>>>>>>Blaine,
please tell us what *evangelical approach* would >
>>>>>>>work best with Mormons, especially at the
General Conference.
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