You obviously must do whatever you hear the Lord telling YOU to do. Izzy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On occupying antithetical positions

Open questions to all regarding street preaching:

  Would it be better for a stree preacher to 1) stand on a corner in SLC 
during GC quitely speaking only to those who will listen, and cause none to 
convert from this pagan religion, or 2) yell through a bulhorn, wave 
underware, or whatever and cause one to convert?

   Which do you think God would prefer?

   I feel confident that many methods have been tried, and people generally 
stick to what works best for them.

   Besides, one can never know when one little thing that one says is the 
proverbial straw that causes another to question their beliefs enough to see

the truth. They may have heard the same thing 99 times before, and 100th 
time it makes sense to them. What if there had been no preacher there to say

it that 100th time? We can never do or say enough. We must always say it 
that 100th time. Or the 101st time. Or the 1001st time.

Perry



>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On occupying antithetical positions
>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 08:11:43 -0500
>
>Kevin says: 'They will not change by skilled reasoning.' Please describe 
>the nature of the content of your own posts, Kevin. Are we witnessing the 
>wisdom of God or, the wisdom of Kevin? If a Mormon I, I'd be quite unmoved.

>On the whole they (your arguments) are quite supercillious.
>   From: Kevin Deegan
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: February 03, 2005 07:58
>   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On occupying antithetical positions
>
>
>   They will not change by skilled reasoning. God's way is
>   For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it

>pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
>
>   Try it Please God, get some saved
>   It works, we have had many saved and join a local congregation in SLC
>
>
>   Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     **note subject change**
>
>     I'm aware of organizations who call themselves 'Ex-Mormons for Jesus.'

>I have audio lectures delivered by such persons. The circumstances 
>underlying their 'change' are many and, varied.
>
>     Are there organizations who call themselves 'Ex-evangelicals (now 
>Mormon) for Jesus? Will someone tell us of them by name. I'd like to hear 
>their 'story'.
>
>     Do you all realize how unlikely it is, naturally speaking, that 
>persons occupying a faith tradition antithetical to yours will ever leave 
>it? My goodness, just look at the conversations BETWEEN 'professing' 
>believers. Some put forward skilled and articulate arguments for 
>...(whatever). When did you last see someone respond with, 'by jove I 
>believe I'll change my mind on this!'? It hasn't happened and it ain't 
>gonna happen.
>
>
>
>
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Kevin Deegan
>       To: [email protected]
>       Sent: February 03, 2005 06:59
>       Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer in Evangelism
>
>
>       The truth horns are for large crowds or areas with lots of Noise
>
>       Did you see the presidents State of the Union address?
>       Is that the only legitimate use of amplification?
>
>       Free Speech carries with it the right to be heard.
>
>       Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         G,
>
>         My question to Blaine was in response to his knocking SP's, 
>particularly
>         those at the LDS GC and their methods. I thought it would be 
>interesting to
>         find out what he thinks would be the best way to evangelize 
>Mormons. While
>         sending out missionaries two by may two work in peoples homes, it 
>is not
>         practical in a public open-air setting. Dave brought up prayer and
>         bullhorns. Prayer is not how the Bible tells us people come to 
>faith. While
>         I believe tht praying for those you wish to come to faith is 
>useful, Paul
>         tells us that preaching is the way people hear the word of God. 
>Paul made
>         good on this himself, as did most of the Aposles. As for 
>bullhorns, I must
>         agree that if someone came into my house with a bullhorn and began

>to
>         preach, I would not like it. But, if they needed to be heard over 
>background
>         noise, hecklers, or other noise in an outdoor setting, I think 
>bullhorns are
>         a good tool.
>
>         Perry
>
>         >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         >Reply-To: [email protected]
>         >To: [email protected]
>         >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer in Evangelism
>         >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:28:38 -0700
>         >
>         >
>         >there are *evangelical approaches to evangelizing* on which not 
>all
>         >evangelicals are agreeing, so what is *evangelical evangelizing*?
>         >
>         >..also, how many street preachers involved in the SLC events 
>discussed on
>         >TT are evangelical/s?
>         >
>         >e.g., what about Kevin's position on 'evangelicals'; maybe he 
>prefers to
>         >be understood in a non-evangelical category
>         >
>         >..well, ftr perhaps Perry would delve into the background of his 
>question
>         >to BB, below(?)
>         >
>         >also, ppl like Kevin, perhaps other street preachers, too, will 
>want to
>         >distinguish themselves on this underlying issue--we'll see
>         >
>         >G
>         >
>         >
>         >On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:09:34 -0800 Dave Hansen
>         >writes:
>         >||
>         > >
>         > > DAVEH: Perry, I assume your reply means you really are not 
>looking
>         > > for an answer to your question posed at the very bottom[*]..to

>know how
>         >
>         > > to *evangelize* Mormons.
>         >||...
>         >||...
>         >[*]>>>>>>Blaine, please tell us what *evangelical approach* would
>         > >>>>>>>work best with Mormons, especially at the General 
>Conference.
>
>
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