There is no strife or disunity in Christ and He is not divided
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:04:51 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 2/5/2005 9:56:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: On the surface, this is untrue.
jt: Had you ever considered that maybe what we see 'on the surface' is not the reality?
No. There are reasons why surface impressions are what they are. The truth, in this case, is more involved than one might originally think........but the surface is reality.
But, perhaps I do not know what you mean with the phrase "no stife or disunity in Christ."
jt: It means just what it says -No it doesn't or I wouldn't have asked the question. the Church he is coming for will have no spot, wrinkle, or blemish; wouldn't you categorize strife and disunity as wrinkles and blemishes?.And here is where we part company -- I on the right and you on the left (I just love talking like you guys -- it gives me such a sense of power , anyway) I beleive that the unblemished Church is the redemptive work and consideration of God in Christ. You think it has to do with your efforts.
When can we say unity has occurred?
jt: When we are of one heart and one mind. When we are all say the same thing and doing what He says. What is the situation with God and disciple(s) until that happens ---------- as in the case with you and I? Are they in Christ or what?
When a division occurs and assuming one believer in definitely in Christ -- how does the onlooker tell the difference in the two opponents?
jt: Eventually, as ppl grow into Christ and His love is perfected in their hearts a wolf will be exposed in spite of the sheepskin by what is coming out of his mouth. "grow into Christ" you say. So there is a time when the church is not united in lockstep teaching and doctrinal verbage. You do include "verbage," correct?
In I Cor 1, when ones describes as a part of the problem are in Christ? John
jt: Is the above a question? I don't get it....
too many red beers, apparently. I suppose I was asking about those in I Cor 1, those who followed different personalities -- was the problem "in Christ" or did they move into Christ at the time they solved the problem?
John
