----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 07, 2005 08:25
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Basis of
Unity
I do. But, you did indeed MTP. Jesus said: 'I am
the way, the truth and the life. No (person) comes to the Father but by me.'
You may think I have missed
"your point" Lance but I have not missed that of God the Word who became Jesus
the man.
Jesus asked:'Who do (persons) say that I
am?' When one states:One Being, three persons', of whom (personal) would
we be speaking?
The Godhead or God.
The question WHO always takes precedence over
WHAT when speaking of our Lord.
True - and this also applies to the
adversary - When confronting A&E after the fall God says
"WHO told you you are naked?"
When did you write your post about that which is
personal to David? And no I did not MTP - My point always seems to
be at odds with your point Lance - What makes you think
that your point is THE POINT!!! Engagement with other ppl can
be personal or it can be impersonal - and the nature of Truth is
objective rather than subjective. Since Truth is the object of our
discussion on TT personal disclosure is not mandatory. I don't find
DavidM detached or impersonal - His focus here however, is not
primarily on his every day personal life. Terry and Izzy do share more of
themselves in that way but they also share other things. I find it
strange that you zero in on this aspect Lance since you share nothing of
yourself with others (on TT anyway) and very little about what you
believe. The mandate Jesus left to his followers is "continuing in
His Word - this is when we are His disciples and can know the truth which
makes us free. An individuals faith/unbelief is personal to them; the
object of such faith is what we discuss here. I understand why ppl
put up walls of protection that they hide behind and this is the rule
rather than the exception., sadly vulnerability is no longer a Christian
trait; do you get my point? jt
Jt:Please read my post to David on that which
is 'personal'.IMO, you once again MTP. True faith is PERSONAL, is it not?
True 'engagement' with one another is PERSONAL, is it not? By the by,
JESUS IS A PERSON, NOT A DETACHED IDEA' When speaking of/to the 'fabulous
four', it is yourself and David who speak in a detached and impersonal
way. This is not true of Izzy and Terry.
Lance, I see you making enquiries about what
constitutes an ad hominem remark, apparently
you can't distinguish because you
continue in it yourself and this is a perfect example
"When it comes to you"
personalizes this remark it so
that you are no longer dealing with ideas
or issues - you are taking a swipe at my
person - Also you never speak for
yourself - you claim
to represent the opinion of
"most" which IMO is a gross exaggeration.
So, of what value is this communication, it
does nothing other than try to tear down. jt
Jt: BECAUSE 'through' is the operative
word in your post. IMO, most have found this to be impossible when
it
comes to you. (The only exception(s)
would be the Mormons)
I love discussing ideas and I
enjoy reading or listening to the ideas of others (that
is why I am still on TT) -- but I hate
debate. If there doesn't appear to be any chance of
resolve, I would rather disengage than ride a disagreement
into the gutter.
Thanks for your response
Bill,
But how do you know there will never
be any chance of resolve if you don't follow it
through?
I think this is one of the things
that drives a lot of women 'nuts' about their husbands.
They get into some kind of an every
day conflict - she wants to talk it
through and he puts up a wall.
So they are in a stalemate
with no resolution in
sight. What is so threatening about talking things
through??
Just wondering.... judyt
