I think you have been taking painting lessons at the Holy See school of Art by the way you try to portray Mr Paisley of whom you know not.
When Ian Paisley stood up in parliament and called the Pope AntiChrist it reminded me of Christ in the temple throwing tables over, making a scourge of cords Driving out
And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables
Not very christian of him!
You seem to think the picture of a Christian man is one who never upsets anyone. Who never opens his mouth when it comes to the UNTOLD Millions. God forbid they should act like men & get physical!
As God why did he need to become so Physical when he could have cast them out with his word alone. Instead He did the work cause He could not find a man!
Ian Paisley's POPE Protest sent reports out all over the world.
In 1988, Pope John Paul's speech to the European parliament in Strasbourg was disrupted when hardline Northern Ireland Protestant the Reverend Ian Paisley began shouting "Anti-Christ" and waved a red banner reading "John Paul II Anti-Christ."
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
They were!----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: February 07, 2005 12:42Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Basis of UnityRight; and did the Millions they Burnt speak hate also?Ian Paisley is just some moronic old man just mixed up a little and your friend is the dear saint?and Defending those that tortured & burnt MILLIONS in the name of god, is a good, upright and edifying endeavor?Do I recall something like He that is not for me is against meYou protect your Kin again.How about all the saints who also called it the Whore were they hateful too men like CH Spurgeon, DL Moody, Wesley, Whitefield, Ryle and on & on....
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Iain Paisley's brother shops in our store (no kidding). He is a dear saint of God who has a rather accurate assessment of his own rather vitriolic brother. People who delight in speaking hate are rather unpleasant.----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: February 07, 2005 11:15Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Basis of UnityYour Kin is ANTICHRIST
Scripture Prophecy Itself, Supplies The Key To Its Interpretation
It is the purpose of this book to demonstrate that the preaching of the Great Cloud of Witnesses of all Ages in the Church is true and that the little horn is none other than the Dynasty of Rome's Popes and that therefore THE POPE IS THE ANTICHRIST.
A Great Cloud of Witnesses
These faithful witnesses all held the doctrine that the Church of Rome is the Babylon of Revelation chapter seventeen and the Pope is the Antichrist prophesied in Scripture.
The Faith Of The Historic Christian Churches
This doctrine is written into the Historic Creeds and Confessions of all those Churches which held, in their earliest days, the Bible to be the Sole Rule of Faith and Practice.
The Term 'Antichrist'
Of all the religions on the earth Romanism is the only one which meets all the requirements of Biblical prophecy, as we shall see. Popery alone exhibits all the features of the Antichrist.
Antichrist Portrayed Before His Birth
No wonder that greatest of all English preachers, Charles Haddon Spurgeon, exclaimed when he read this Scripture passage, 'ARREST THE POPE ON SUSPICION OF BEING THE ANTICHRIST!'
Antichrist An Enemy Of Christ Under A Mask
But the definition of Antichrist is stated by John thus, 'He is antichrist that denieth the Father and the Son.' I John 2:22.
Antichrist No Atheist Or Communist
When we eliminate those false Antichrists who cannot measure up to the prophetic standards set forth so clearly in the Scriptures, we come more and more to within sight of the real Antichrist.
The Two Mysteries Of The Bible
What is 'the mystery of iniquity'? It is none other than the parallel and counterfeit of 'the mystery of Godliness.' It is the revelation of the Great Lie which has its full manifestation in the Person of the Antichrist.
The Unfolding of the Two Mysteries
When the fulness of the time came and the day of Antichrist�s appearance had arrived, the great reality appeared, 'The Man of Sin and Son of Perdition.' He had found his seat on the Seven Hills, but not as yet his full stature.
The Pastor Becomes Monarch � Ten Centuries of Climbing
He claimed to be the world�s one monarch and bishop, the Representative of Christ on earth.
The King with Three Crowns � The Vicar
The career both of Christ and Antichrist was to end on a throne but each was to reach their respective thrones by a very different road.
The "All Power" of Christ and Antichrist
Christ does miracles. The Antichrist does counterfeit miracles. Paul highlights these when he states that Antichrist�s coming �is after the manner of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.� II Thess. 2:9.
�Signs and Wonders� of Christ and of Antichrist
Baptismal Regeneration is a lying wonder. Sacramental grace is a lying wonder. The Absolution of the Confessional is a lying wonder. Transubstantiation, the mass, is the biggest wonder and greatest lie of all, and extreme unction is the last and fatal lie.
Antichrist�s �Signs and Wonders� of Terror
It should be emphasised that Vatican Council Two reaffirmed no departure by the church from the decrees of the Council of Trent. Rome�s curses stand! The Infallible Antichrist has decreed them!
The All Deceivableness of Unrighteousness
Paul emphasizes this special mark of the Antichrist. It is a most remarkable one. Nowhere else is it used in the Bible. It is not applied to any other system � �all deceivableness of unrighteousness.�
The Culmination of the Parallelism and Enthronization
The enthronization of �the mystery of Godliness� and the enthronization of �the mystery of iniquity� run parallel yet are immeasurably and eternally separated.
Antichrist�s Usurpation Over Kings and Nations
Antichrist makes a double usurpation. He vaults over the thrones of kings into the very throne of God.
Antichrist Exalts Himself Above God
Sitting in the temple of God speaking ex-cathedra the Pope claims to have the infallibility of God Himself. This is the daring pitch and blasphemy of Antichrist in keeping with Paul�s prophecy, �Shewing himself to be God.�
Man of Sin and Son of Perdition
The apostle Paul completes the portrait of the Antichrist by styling him the �Man of Sin and Son of Perdition.�
Christ Predicted the Papacy as the Antichrist
Christ predicts the dynasty of the Antichrist and the False Prophet. Note carefully His language. He warns in Matthew chapter twenty-four against the deception of antichrist but never uses the singular in His references.
Does Not The Likeness Fit?
The numerical value of the Pope's title on his golden crown at his public coronation, namely 'VICARIVS FILII DEI is that remarkable number 666.
What Think Ye of the Antichrist � Whose Son Is He?
Cardinal Manning says: �The Catholic Church is either the masterpiece of Satan or the Kingdom of the Son of God.� Cardinal Newman says: �A sacerdotal order is historically the essence of the Church of Rome; if not divinely appointed, it is doctrinally the essence of antichrist.�
Spurgeon on Antichrist
"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. If there were to be issued a hue and cry for Antichrist, we should certainly take up this church on suspicion, and it would certainly not be let loose again, for it so exactly answers the description."
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:The Pope, a kin of mine? Yes. Might I ask the same of Izzie, Judy, David, the assembled Mormons, Gary, John, Bill, Terry, Kevin, Dave and, any 'lurkers' who'd care to speak to this.----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: February 07, 2005 07:28Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Basis of UnityNo Brothers of mine maybe yours!The Pope has been called his Hellishness & AntiChrist for good reasonMaybe a few who call themselves Evangelical (ECT) and the Nothingarians would speak of this ANTI Christ as a Brother.You are wrong concerning Bruce Cockburn and the Pope as THEY ARE YOUR BROTHERS IN CHRIST. IFF you are a believer then, you have no choice in this matter.----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: February 06, 2005 17:28Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Basis of UnityUNITY IN THE FAITHThe Key here is "in the faith" not outside it or by bringing the world the Flesh & the Devil in
That seems to be todays popular notion of Unity. How else can we have Unity with Pagan notions? There is a Biblical doctrine of separation, it is not popular. We are not to be yoked with unbelievers.
I care not to have Unity with Bruce Cockburn, the POPE, LDS & every false way
Walter Cradock was a Welsh Nonconformist preacher or Puritan who was decried by his enemies as a "Bold, Ignorant Fellow"Here is a taste from Spugeon's Treasury of David http://grace-for-today.com/chstod.htmGod, as it were, keeps silence in the midst of the greatest troubles, that he may, as it were, gather the wicked into one faggot, into one bundle, that they may be destroyed together. There is a great deal of ado to "gather the saints" in this world; and truly there is some ado to gather the wicked. So God withdraws himself from his people, yet he hath a hook within their hearts, he holds them up secretly by his Spirit, that they shall not leave him; yet the world shall not see but that God hath quite left them, and all their ordinances and his gospel and everything; and there the wicked come together and insult, whereby God may come upon them at once, and destroy them, as we find ten nations in the Psalm. And so in Genesis God stirs up the nations against Abraham and his posterity, and there are ten nations that God promised to cut off before Abraham at once, the Perizzites, and the Jebusites, and the Canaanites, etc. So God heaps them together, and burns them like stubble. Those that burn stubble have rakes, and they gather it to heaps, and then they fire it. This is the way of God's keeping silence among his people, and sitting still in the midst of their miseries, thus God gathers their enemies in heaps as stubble, that he may burn them together. Gualter (Walter) Cradock, in "Divine Drops."
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Who is Walter Cradock? I agree that 'peace at any price' is no peace at all so division is not always a bad thing.However, we are supposed to grow out of it (that's if we are part of the real Church); contrary to what some claim we are not just sucked up into Christ because we have not refused the incarnation. The work of the ministry (including evangelists) is necessary to prepare God's ppl for works of service so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach UNITY IN THE FAITH and (UNITY) IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up INTO HIM who is the Head, that is Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.Do you have a problem with any of the above Kevin? judytOn Sun, 6 Feb 2005 05:06:01 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:"It is better to have divisions than an evil uniformity." Walter Cradock
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:04:51 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:In a message dated 2/5/2005 9:56:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is no strife or disunity in Christ and He is not divided
JD: On the surface, this is untrue.jt: Had you ever considered that maybe what we see 'on the surface' is not the reality?But, perhaps I do not know what you mean with the phrase "no stife or disunity in Christ."jt: It means just what it says - the Church he is coming for will have no spot, wrinkle, or blemish; wouldn't you categorize strife anddisunity as wrinkles and blemishes?.
When can we say unity has occurred?jt: When we are of one heart and one mind. When we are all say the same thing and doing what He says.
When a division occurs and assuming one believer in definitely in Christ -- how does the onlooker tell the difference in the two opponents?jt: Eventually, as ppl grow into Christ and His love is perfected in their hearts a wolf will be exposed in spite of the sheepskin bywhat is coming out of his mouth.
In I Cor 1, when ones describes as a part of the problem are in Christ? Johnjt: Is the above a question? I don't get it....__________________________________________________
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