Judy
wrote > Jesus layed aside his former glory so he
was not on this earth as God ...
And again
later she says > Jesus did not come here as God. He layed
aside his former glory and took upon himself a body of flesh made in
the likeness of men.
Judy, my friend, what does
the name Emmanuel suggest to you?
jt
responds: Emmanuel means "God with us" but the same scripture that
calls Him Emmanuel also calls Him Everlasting Father and
Prince of Peace. All true.
Ah, yes, but does it mean as you stated, that
Jesus was not here with us on earth as God? Does it mean that while he was
here, he was not God with us, Emmanuel?
jt: God is a Spirit and
yes Jesus did represent (complete and total obedience to) God the
Father while he was here (He only did and said what He first saw the
Father doing and saying) and of course they were/are One since Jesus
Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. However, He was
never known as Jesus the Christ before the incarnation and during the time
of His earthly ministry He had layed aside the glory he had with
the Father to take upon Himself our likeness and he
was here on earth as Christ Jesus, Messiah, Prince of
Peace and Lamb of God for the sole purpose of being slain as a
sacrifice for our sin.
Judy, I've never seen such slippery language
in my life. Please excuse me, but I still do not understand your answer to
my question. And so if you don't mind I'll ask it again. The question is,
was Jesus God with us, and if so, why did you say he "did not come
here as God," and if not, why do you say he is not
Emmanuel?