jt: To Karl Barth that is.... If "Jesus loves
me this I know for the Bible tells me so" is Barth's most profound statement
then we are wasting our time studying
him.
I see you are still up to your old tactics, Judy. No
one said that the above was Barth's "most profound
statement."
jt: Tactics Bill? Why is whatever I
write a tactic? (I don't have a wrestling mindset) and someone did say
this (this was spoken by Barth on his deathbed and is said to be the
culmination of his life and work)
BT: Jesus loves you; this you know, for the bible
tells you so. Pretty profound huh? Or is it darkness upon which you dwell?
Bill
So why not go straight to the source?
jt
You mean like he did? Or perhaps I should ask you the same question I
asked, Izzy. Do you know that Jesus loves you? I mean, I think he does, but do
you have any basis for thinking the same?
jt: I don't really know what Karl Barth did
or said - he may have been studying theologians himself; but I do know
that Jesus loves
me... because while I was his enemy - he died so that I might live - and
now it is my turn to show my love
for him by following His voice and by doing what He
says.
I'll talk to you later; I'm off to a wrestling tournament. Go Andy!
Bill
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writes:
Barth, while dealing with the problem of the fall of man, near
the beginning of his essay (this is not a Mexican greeting -
essay Mon !?) has t his to say:
We will begin by
stating that in all that we have to say at this point we cannot and must not deviate at any cost from the
revelation or Word of God. (Barth, Church
Dogmatics, vi.1, p478).
Spoken like a true
believer.
His critics might try gving him a read before doing the
work of the Father in judgment.
jt: So far as I can tell noone is
judging Barth the man. As believers we have a responsibility to
evaluate or "judge" if you like the things he
taught and wrote as the
representative of God.
Also, "The fall of man. The term corresponds exactly
to what we have learned to know as the essence of
sin --
the pride of
man."
jt: I don't think so - there
was no pride in the first Adam and his wife before they agreed in
their hearts with the word of the adversary and began to be conformed
to his image.
And the "Word of God" has this meaning to Barth
-- " .......... by the Word and judgment of God
we do not mean a revealed theory of supernatural origin and content
about man, but the address and claim of God concretely attested to
[man]." And, so, the "Word of
God" has no single definition except the above. The
"word" is scripture, Jesus, that which is spoken by a true prophet of
God, that which is revealed through counsel, the still small
voice, a circumstance that cannot be misunderstood and the
like.
jt: To Karl Barth that is.... If "Jesus
loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so" is Barth's most profound
statement then we are wasting our time studying
him. Why not go straight to the source?
jt
