It rather reflects your connection to
reality Lance; I am still right on target. This thread began with
reality vs imagination and I am still right
there in spite of your attempt to veer off into a Q & A
session with you supplying both questions and answers along with some
of the same old accusations.
Yesterday at our Bible Study we sang a
hymn based on (2 Tim 1:12) titled "I Know Whom I Have Believed" written by
Daniel W. Whittle (1804-1901). And this old saint
knew what he was about. The words to the 3nd stanza read "I
know not how the Spirit moves, convincing men of sin, revealing Jesus through the
Word, creating faith
in Him" - I submit that this is
the ONLY way Jesus is and has ever been revealed because
"Faith comes by hearing and hearing, by the Word of God (Romans 10:17),
and if we are justified before God we are justified by faith (Romans
5:1,2).
To have faith in a figment of your own
imagination has no foundation in God, in fact we are instructed to "Cast
down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the
knowledge of God and to bring EVERY thought into
captivity to the obedience of Christ" (2 Cor 10:5); the ppl who God gives
over to their own destructive ways in Romans 1 had become
"vain in their imaginations" so it is nothing to
take lightly. for Karl Barth's teachings to pass muster they
would have to undergo the searchlight of scripture - and so far they have
a failing grade. jt
Am I the only one to have noticed that Jt's
responses to posts function on a sliding scale? The
'scale' reflects a diminishing connection to the content of the post, the more responses there are. If it were
a tactic, it'd be a good one should avoidance be the objective.
Jt:You actually don't see it do you? Should
you ever wish to understand why some just cry 'enough' then, that's part
of the reason. Why not ask questions
when you just don't understand? YOU ABSOLUTELY DID NOT UNDERSTAND GARY OR
BILL! If David's out there 'lurking', he just might have. Terry did not.
Linda surely did not. Kevin COULD NOT. Also Judy, why not leave off taking 'pot shots' at that which you
think you're supposed to disagree with even when you don't apprehend the
meaning of what's being said (meant)?
Not a claim Lance; I made a comment having
to do with conjuring up some kind of Jesus by using one's imagination
which you apparently see as normal christianity and which to me is
divination. jt
These are not demands. You make a claim on
your own behalf. You are asked to back up this claim. You say that you
won't do it.I believe that what just happened here is in need of little in
the way of interpretation. It is certainly not ironic.
Lance I've got to go out and won't
be back until later today lest you misinterpret my silence. I find it
ironic that you - the one who comes in with the one liner and then retires
until the noise dies down would make these kinds of demands. You who
normally speak in obscure unintelligible sentences (to those who don't
spend all of their times watching movies that is). jt
Jt's 'slip slidin' away' once again. When
your asked ANYTHING with some specificity, you just turn the tables thus,
critiquing the one who asks you a genuine question. Will you:
1. Demonstrate my meaning?
2. Address the issue therein?
Please put up or......
When you, David, Kevin et al SELECT TEXTS
which you deem appropriate for any issue under discussion, you are
interpreting, teaching, imagining..God's own answers to that which is
being spoken of. I do not believe that you've ever 'seen' that, nor do I
believe that you ever will 'see' that. IMO it's not
complicated.
jt: You don't have to "believe
me" Lance since I'm not looking for followers. However, I do think it
tragic that you know so much about movies and lines in movies and so
little about the Word of God which shows me clearly which type of wisdom
has your full attention. Obviously you are not involved with taking
thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ but rather walking in the
counsel of the ungodly and sitting in the seat of the scoffer (with regard
to DM anyway) jt
I don't demonize any part of the body per
se Lance but without spiritual discernment everyone is open to
deception. Look at how the adversary uses the "imagination" and John
Lennon's song is a perfect example. God does not reveal Himself to
mankind through their fallen imaginations. Nor does He reveal His Word to
us in this way. Faith imagination is a misnomer. How do you
know the Jesus you conjure up is not the "angel of light?" God
will either hide or reveal Himself to whomsoever He wills - and He hides
Himself from the proud but gives grace to the humble.
jt
Jt:'I don't want a Jesus of my own
imagination..'
1. Please don't demonize
the imagination. It comes into play in all of our thinking
(theologizing).
The kind of 'interpreting' that you, David et
al do on a regular basis.
2. Therefore, like it or not, YOU DO HAVE A JESUS OF YOUR OWN
'IMAGINING'.
G, you sound just like my mother who, last
time I was with her was in total unbelief and I have no reason
to believe things have changed
since then. She told me one would have to have a good
imagination to believe the Bible. This is the fruit
of liberal unbelieving scholars and clergy on the radio and in her Church
which BTW has lost it's
candlestick and is getting ready to close the doors and auction the
building. God will not be mocked
and ppl always reap what they sow. I don't want a Jesus of my own
imagination who would just be another
antichrist figure. judyt
