I get it. Can't really find anything wrong with the article so you resort to playing God. What is it with the right wingers. Whine about the finger article and pass judgment like you were God. I will hang around, hoping for some form of intelligent discussion. But talking with those who believe that King James was an Evangelical, that Christ quoted the KJV of the B I B L E, that the Spirit's indwelling suddenly gives us both the correct understanding of all things spiritual and the ability to live a sin free life -- well, it seems that intelligent discussion has been put on the back burner.
JD
In a message dated 3/20/2005 10:04:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are of your Father
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is more than incredible that we continue to have this discussion. The administration of the will of the Father has changed, folks There is a New Covenant (Jere 31:31-34). In Christ, the accomplishment of His will has taken place (Eph 1:11) and those who live in unbelief are condemned already (John 3:18). Judgment is the recognition of rebellious life choices and only the rebellious will have an after life that would not be of our choosing. Least we forget, it is of their choosing, however. There are no pictures of people in "hell" begging to get out -- is that correct? Their end is fixed before their physical death occurs because after that, there is no life. Call it what you will: spiritual death, eternal death, torment -- whatever, but it is not life. And they [the rebellious] would not want it any other way!!!!!! In terms of demographics, perhaps we have three categories. The rebellious lost; the ignorant "lost" and the "carnal" saved; and the spiritual. God is the Father of them all. When I speak of a differing administration, I include this concept of the "Father." It is exclusively a N.T. term and illustrates perfectly the difference in the administration of the two Covenants. "Father" is a translation found some 14 times in all of the O.T. scriptures and only twice is it used of God. Once in Mal 2:10 "Do we not all have one father ......?" and in Is.9:6 "Everlasting Father," a term applied to the Christ in prophecy. Two times in scripture before the Eternal Son appeared and in both passages, the reference is to the Creator God (Christ) or the Prophetic Christ (The Everlasting Father) So how many times is this word used of God the Father? Once. After the Incarnation? 57 times and the theme of Fatherhood is a continuing thread throughout N.T. literature. Things were always going to be different. That was determined before the foundations of the world. When Caroline speaks of a Father who judges, she speaks correctly. Nothing done by the Father is out of spite or carnal hatred. Nothing. All such statements must be considered in the context of Family. The Father, the Son, and the adoption of sons [and daughters]. The "gospel message" is profaned when the Fatherhood of a Loving God is taken out of the equation by those who seek to control and judge.
JD
