Terry Clifton wrote:
Only murdering God carries such a penalty, and anyone who rejects Him
is complicit in His death.
DAVEH: My understanding of your belief is that those who accept him
are complicit in His death. Why would those who would say no
thank you to Jesus be complicit?
I
feel that way because God has said that
in His word.
DAVEH: I'm not sure what you are thinking about.....Can you give me a
reference on that, Terry.
I
believe Him. To say otherwise would be to Judge God and
find Him unworthy.
DAVEH: Perhaps from a believer's standpoint. But I don't see how that
applies to an unbeliever---somebody who has never accepted Jesus to
start with.
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Reference. I Cor.11:27- 28 Those who take communion in a worthy
manner are true Christians. Those who take it in an unworthy manner
are pretenders, lost people, sinners who are guilty of the death of
Christ.
Psalm 7:11 God is angry with the sinner every day.
James 4:4 Friends of the world are enemies of God
Romans 5:10 Through the death of Christ, we, who were at one time
enemies of God, are reconciled to Him.
DAVEH: Thank you for the above references, Terry. Though I do agree
with your analysis of each passage, I fail to see how they apply to
your original comment.......
.....anyone who rejects Him
is complicit in His death.
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Read 1 Cor.11 again. They are guilty of the body and the blood of
Christ
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DAVEH: I took another look at it Terry. To me it clearly is
referring to somebody taking communion, which is something one would
not expect a rejector of Christ to do. The passage makes no reference
to the non believer.
......Do most Protestants (or Christians, if you don't like my usage of
Protestant) feel the way you do about it?
BTW......My apologies for taking so long to respond to your
post....just been a bit busy lately.
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I honestly do not know how most others think,Dave. I can't even figure
out what some of those on this list think. I am sorta outside the
crowd anyway, somewhere on the fringe where those go who are either
really weird, or refuse to travel the wide road, or both. I left the
first church I left because the preacher called me into his office and
told me not to discuss his salary (I was on the finance committee.) I
left another because some (not me) wanted to fire the preacher and the
preacher did not want to go and it got real ugly. I left another
because the preacher wanted to build a million dollar gym. (We had no
benevolence fund, but he got his gym.). I left the last one because I
taught the truth about divorce and had half the congregation upset. I
was asked to repent, or leave. I left. You probably need to find a
mainline protestant and ask your questions of him or her. Maybe ask
their community if you want the real truth.
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DAVEH: OK Terry. I appreciate you sharing your opinion. At this
point, I'll assume it is not similarly believed by many others, unless
other TTers would suggest otherwise. Thanx again!
Those who are reconciled are adopted as His children. Those who
ignore God's offer of reconcilliation remain enemies, die in their sin
and spend eternity in torment.
There are probably a dozen ways to twist these scriptures to say
something else, but that is what God's word is saying to me. If you
are still in your sins, unforgiven, you are guilty of the blood of
Christ.
Terry
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