On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:40:22 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 4/4/2005 1:52:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What exactly would go to your question JD?I asked for scripture that tells me that God's love and God's grace empower me to accomplish fully a separation from sin and sinning in my life. If that is what you meant to say, I would like to see some scripture that specifically teaches that.JD first you have to want to separate yourself from sin rather than make excuses and rationalizehow to be saved and keep it. "Every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure" (1 John 3:3)The scriptures you gave spoke of commandment keeping and my love for God expressed in commandment keeping -- none said anything about God's love or His grace being theempowering agent in my complete separation from sin and sinning.Didn't Jesus say that when we love Him and keep His Commandments that both Father and Soncome to abide with us? How much more power do you need? Of course if you don't love Him and break the Royal Law you make yourself a covenant breaker who wears the curse rather than the blessings.
First you delete 10 or so words from my statement and now you add 20 words or more to another. No wonder you have problems "understanding me."You don't make it easy JDI write very precise. When you embellish or delete, you have changed my meaning --Like the "Christ event" folk do with God's Word? (embellish/delete that is)probably true for anyone. Just read my question.....but I have gien you an explanation above.I did read your question JD and I have given you enough scripture to show what God expects before we will see victory over sin in our lives.
So where did I miss it? Also how exactly does the clear Word of Truth transform into a "proof text?"There is a larger context for all of your scriptures - again, probably a truism - anyway, all of those scriptures seem to be used by you in the sense of "law' -What "larger context"JD? God's moral law has not gone anyplace in fact it will be your Judge in the last day (John 12:48) John writes that he is not giving a new commandment but one that has been therefrom the beginning. Why do you want to put some context into the clear Word of Truth?"if you love me you will keep my commandments, my law" when, in fact, the keeping of the commandments is a personal issue, not a corporate one, and how I express my obedience to "Love God" and "love your neighbor as yourself" is not open to public approval .. when, in fact, we are not under law (Rom 2, 3).Romans 2:3 is about judging ppl JD because this breaks the Royal Law. Actually loving God and loving our neighbors as ourselves is a "corporate issue" because there will be no life and no peace in a Church full of ppl who are basically living a lie and serving the devil.
"He that says I know Him and keeps not his commandments is a liar but whoso keeps His Word, in Him verily is the love of God perfected" (1 John 2:4,5)The love of God being perfected in a pure heart is the goal of the instruction. The is when "perfect love drives out fear" and we walk in power over all the power of the enemy.
