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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:00
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth
Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen
Knowing the Language, the customs, the greek, the hebrew and knowing
the stories & words in the scriptures without having the Holy Ghost is
like having the table of Contents only, it is seriously lacking. One needs
the Enlightenment of God's spirit to understand "spiritual"
words
Jesus said "The words I speak unto you they are SPIRIT"
This is exactly why the learned have no understanding of the spiritual
content.
They are spiritually discerned, what can a dead man understand?
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Maybe, then, Judy, we needn't even bother to
read the Bible in our own language. We could "read" it in Inuktitut
and the Holy Spirit could just siphon the
content into our brains without ANY of the normal means of linguistic
processing.
Debbie, please tell me you are being
silly rather than serious here...
The point being (as laid
out in an earlier post) that making use of
context is something we all do every day in
understanding
anything we hear or read.
But in this case, we are so far away from the context (Jesus'
hearers weren't) that we have to make
a conscious effort to go after it. Of
course it will STILL be necessary for the Holy Spirit to
enlighten and enliven us, as it was
for Jesus' hearers back then; but why would
he expect us to deliberately short-circuit the normal process of
understanding
language? Debbie
He doesn't expect this from us and
this is why He has made His Word available to us in our generation in
the English language. However, an English speaking person can read an English Bible and a
Greek speaking person can read a Greek Bible with both knowing all about
Israel's history and local customs and yet it
will still be a closed
book without the ministry of the Holy Spirit which is not so
with what we read and
what we hear every day on TV and in the newspaper.
It's something to think
about...
Judyt
Do you use
biblcial, historical and cultural
context to help understand the meaning of words?
Or do you see that as a devise of the uninspired? JD
I don't see Jesus leaving any admonition
about history, culture, and Word Studies in order to understand
the meaning
of His Word. He sent the Holy Spirit to
give us understanding. I don't know what Kevin's response will
be but I see the above qualifiers as an
excuse to make the Word of God say what you want it to and
conform it to strange and
different doctrines rather than receive the "faith once delivered
to the saints". jt
In a message dated 4/14/2005 4:36:24
AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Does the "context"
of your writings demand that we REDFINE your words also?
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