Egypt, you ask? I practically live there. Are we a living 'soul'? Yes! Do we 'have a soul'? No!
I'd recommend that you read: 'From Cells to Souls-and Beyond - Changing Portraits of Human Nature - Malcolm Jeeves ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: April 20, 2005 11:12 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Saved - Salvation > Lance wrote: > >>> As you, and perhaps others interpret Scripture, > >>> vis a vis the 'soul' you are COMPLETELY GREEK > >>> IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING. Can I get an AMEN? > > Judy wrote: > >> Since you have no frame of reference as to what I am > >> saying Lance, how in the world would you know? > >> You reject it because your mind is full of old movies > >> and the teachings of these men. Broken cisterns and > >> blind guide... > > Lance wrote: > > Who among you, respected by Judy, would make this > > point in other words? > > Are you asking for someone to make your point or her point? > > Your point, Lance, misses the mark. Just consider the Egyptian culture > which predates the Greeks. They were very concerned about the after-life > and built huge pyramids because of this belief. I've been to Egypt and seen > some of them. Have you? > > Furthermore, just because an idea is found in the Greek culture does not > mean it is a wrong idea. Many times you and others have this unspoken > assumption that anything from Greek culture is wrong. Some of us consider > this to be a false assumption. > > Add to this the idea that you often paint views with too broad of a brush. > For example, Greeks were not united in their belief of the immortality of > the soul. Plato certainly did posit a belief in the immortality of the soul > which led to its popular conception much like Christianity has in our > culture, but Aristotle did not hold to such a belief. Plato's influence has > fed much of our Christian history and theology, but Aristotle has fed much > of our scientific history and philosophy which denies the existence of a > soul or spirit. So your effort to try and attribute the concept of the > continuation of the soul after death to being COMPLETELY GREEK fails on many > fronts, both by overgeneralization, and by not appreciating the Greek > influence upon your favorite theologians' holistic view of man (which is > clearly Aristotelian and therefore Greek too!). > > I also would like to point out that despite your rhetoric about the Greek > concept of the soul, the greatest teacher and revelator about the > continuation of the soul was Jesus Christ. We should look to his teachings > to settle this matter. Just read Luke 16:19-31 and get the image that Jesus > held, which was very much like that depicted in a work from the first > century Jewish / Roman historian Flavius Josephus. > > As for Judy's point, try to read Kevin's post with the subject, > "Universalists about fear not love." I think that very well captures the > problems we have with the universalist perspective that many on TruthTalk > have. You seem to draw upon movies and teachings from men for theology > whereas many of us draw upon Scriptures. It is kind of like arguing with > someone who always quotes from secondary sources. As a book reader, I think > you can appreciate, as scholars on the list can, that when disputes arise, > we should favor primary sources over secondary sources. It is difficult to > do that with many of you because you refuse to do that. Scripture is our > primary source, don't you agree? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
