Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] More wisdom from Dallas Willard

[Judy Taylor]

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:33:48 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There is NO vendetta against DM. Phdwise and University class teachingwise, I'd imagine him to be exceptional and, a delight to have as a prof. SOMETIMES on TT it's difficult to not to think Jekyll & Hyde wise vis a vis 'the David'.   Why?  I read what he writes too. I may not agree as to all the details in certain areas but I basically see DM as a man of the Word, and a conscientious husband and father. I certainly don't see any Jekyll & Hyde persona; where does that come from?   IMO, other than Jt, Izzy, Kevin and DaveH everyone else is somewhat astounded at some of the things he 'makes a case for'.   What kinds of things - Sanctification and being conformed to the image of Christ?   Speaking only for myself, I'd have to say that God alone knows of the truthfulness of David as 'Prophet' and 'King' (?could you explain this one, David?).   Don't you believe in the ministry giftings Lance?  They are listed in 1 Cor 12:28. Some denominations say they died with the last apostle but I don't believe that (no valid reason) and if the Church ever needed these giftings she needs them now.  Agabus in Acts 21:10 was a prophet.  Why would you have a problem with David being used in this ministry and if this is where God has called him it is not bragging for him to say it....   I find him, with respect to Christian truth, to be a very bright rationalist/fundamentalist and, occasionally gnostic/dualist.   See what I mean about you and your friends?  You are so busy categorizing everyone according to what you see and hear.  Not wise.....   From: Judy Taylor Looks like it's 'played out' already Kevin and what is this vendetta against DM all about? Do you hate him JD because he speaks the truth to you?  If you don't agree with him then at least raise a rational objection with a basis in scriptural or other grounds. These personal attacks are a downer - they don't edify anyone.  jt   On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 04:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JD your "immersion" is running thin.......... what happened to all your pious talk? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/20/2005 7:34:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a true statement, John, but I'm not sure you understand it.  I think we all have agreed previously that the one who is perfect in love does not sin. David  -- I most certainly do understand the passage.   I stopped reading after two sentences,  David.   The first sentence reveals a continuing need to exhalt yourself at the expence of others.  The second sentence show that you have little grasp on reality.  Have a good evening.  JD