DAVEH: Sorry 'bout that, Lance. Let me try it again. You posted
negative material relating to the BofM. The author used an example
that you disagree with to draw conclusions (detrimental to the BofM)
that you do agree with. That seems a bit incongruous to me,
so I was wondering if you considered that anomaly when you posted it.
Or...perhaps you did not read it before posting....
Lance Muir wrote:
You lost me.
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DAVEH: Then does it concern you at all to post his conclusions when
they may be based on assumptions to which you do not subscribe?
Lance Muir wrote:
Presently, I do not.
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DAVEH: Lance, do you (agreeing with the author's
assumptions below) believe Jesus did not speak the words of Mk
15-18 as mentioned below?
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Subject: Book of Mormon and the KJV Bible
The Book of Mormon and the King James
Version (1999)
Curt van den Heuvel
Introduction
The King James Version of the Bible is, in all likelihood,
the most successful of all the English translations. Volumes have been
written on its distinctive and rhythmic style, and it is still regarded
as a triumph of modern English literature.
................
A similar problem affects Mormon
chapter 9. Verses 22 through 24 read
For behold, thus said Jesus Christ, the Son of
God, unto his disciples who should tarry, yea, and also to all his
disciples, in the hearing of the multitude: Go ye into all the world,
and preach the gospel to every creature; And he that believeth and is
baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned; And
these signs shall follow them that believe--in my name shall they cast
out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up
serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them;
they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover...
Similarly, Ether
4:18 reads
Therefore, repent all ye ends of the earth, and
come unto me, and believe in my gospel, and be baptized in my name; for
he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth
not shall be damned; and signs shall follow them that believe in my
name.
Both these passages are quotations from Mark 16, verses 15
through 18:
And he said unto them, Go
ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that
believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not
shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my
name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it
shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
recover.
The problem here is that these
verses are part of the so-called long ending of Mark, generally thought
to be a late addition to the Marcan text. Neither the Siniaticus nor
the Vaticanus, the two oldest Greek texts, have this ending. (The New
International Version has a note which reads `The most reliable early
manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20'). If
this is true, it is quite impossible for Jesus to have spoken these
words.
Conclusion
It is very evident that the Book of Mormon owes much to
the King James Version. Since this particular version of the Bible was
not translated until 1611, it means that the Book of Mormon cannot be
an ancient work as Joseph Smith claimed.
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