Jude Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
The use of the Greek word [hapax] carries the meaning of "once only and forever." The gospel delivered to mankind was not a piecemeal revelation, "here a little and there a little" as in the Old Testament, but the full message in its entirety and completeness as delivered through Christ to the apostles.
The faith needs not a new delivery, anymore than Christ needs to offer Himself for us again!
To offer doctrines that are other than this faith is to offer falsehood and poison.
To offer doctrines that are other than this faith is to offer falsehood and poison.
CONTEXT is "THE FAITH" was ONCE Delivered
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: Ponder those passages, Kevin, and consider their context. Do you really think they each mean that all things revealed by God are in the Bible? It does not even make sense to think such, since the Bible didn't exist at the time they said such things. Furthermore, from a logical standpoint, IF thee books of the Bible were not all written at about the same time, then wouldn't the ALL things of the earliest writer have been less than the ALL things of the last writer? Read 'em again, Kevin. None of the quotes you offer below make the claim that ALL things are found in the Bible.
Kevin Deegan wrote:Note: The passages you quoted before do not say ALL is included in the Bible, Kevin.They do not say the cow jumped over the moon either! Nice that you define what you will accept and it is NOT the FAITH ONCE Delivered! It is becoming more evident the shenanigans & gyrations you go thru in a fruitless and more & more transparent attempt to save the sinking ship of Mormonism. Thanks for the study in cult behavior."the endless subterfuges and prevarications which our present condition impose . . . threaten to make our rising generation a race of deceivers." Charles W. Penrose to President John Taylor, 1887
Acts 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to houseMK 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you ALL things.JN 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.Acts 10:33 Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear ALL things that are commanded thee of God.Acts 20;35 I have shewed you all things2 Co 7;14 but as we spake all things to you in truth
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: To Kevin and Perry, who both responded to my post regarding ALL God revealed being included in the Bible. I did not realize that my questions would find you so disagreeable. DavidM previously posted what to me seemed a pretty convincing argument (from Scripture) that I will post below. I don't recall either of you getting excited about his suggestion that ALL is not included in the Bible. Is your disagreement with me on this simply because of my LDS background, or do you really believe ALL God has revealed is included in the Bible???
Note: The passages you quoted before do not say ALL is included in the Bible, Kevin. IF you have any passages that DO say such, please post them. Otherwise, it would seem to be your opinion that ALL God has revealed is included in the Bible....And I believe your opinion is wrong.Perry wrote:I do beleive that the scriptures contain all knowledge and truth in that it provides all knowledge and truth regarding spiritual things,No way. Even Paul speaks of a man going into the third heaven and receiving knowledge that was not lawful to utter. John bears similar testimony in the book of Revelation, being forbidden to write certain things that he heard. Apparently you have not yet had experiences like this yourself.
Kevin wrote:
As someone who we all love once said: "It depends on what the definition of IS, IS!"As far as I am concerned ALL does not mean some. There is another word for that it is called "some" You play fast and easy with the text. Just another example of the LOW REGARD for God's Word of many on TT.Perfect example of forcing your context into the text!Isogesis is to come to the text with our own presuppositions and thoughts coloring the way you read and interpret the text. Bringing those things "into" the text is isogesis, rather than taking "out" of the text, what it confers is exegesis
Charles Perry Locke wrote:From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DAVEH: Wouldn't that suggest *_ALL_* means less than everything?
Dave, are you pulling a Clinton here? Doesn't 'ALL' always mean 'ALL'?-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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