Re: [TruthTalk] Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

[Debbie Sawczak]

By "What is your spin?" do you simply mean "What do you believe?" Just checking. I kind of remember you using "spin" negatively with reference to Watts.   Yes, people do use being human as an excuse. Humanity has been broken for so long, and the story of what we were made to be (and what we will be in Christ) has become so obscured, that they think of fallen humanity as the only humanity. To be truly human is to show with all our being what God is like, to be God's regent-servants in the world he has made, to live in intimate relationship with God as we were created to do. When God made us, he said "very good". Jesus is truly human, and through his life, death, resurrection, and ascension, we are being restored. If humanity is just going to be extinguished, there is no such thing as salvation. Think of it: you are animated by the Holy Spirit already now.      We will have bodies, Judy, although they will be different. We will not be ghosts or angels. We will still be human. What could we be other than human, and be ourselves? There is going to be a new earth, too. You might want to reference a previous thread in which David and I talked about the body, salvation, and resurrection.   But I remember, now, that you have a very different idea of the body, and it was talked about at some length on TT not long ago. (Remember the discussion about "gnosticism"?) We understand Scripture differently on this question. Perhaps we could just disagree instead of doing it all over again. I don't feel compelled to try to convince you, and I think the effort would be ill spent in any case. Live in the light you have.   Joy Debbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Debbie writes: 1. We are not saved to be something other than human. To be truly human does not mean to be sinful and broken.    What do you mean by "truly human" Debbie?  It's been my experience that ppl usually bring out "after all they are human" as an excuse for continuing in sin when they are threatened by someone they think may be setting the standard too high.   You can't be talking about the human body because we all know that "flesh and blood" cannot inherit God's Kingdom (1 Cor 15:50) So what are you saying here... What is your spin?   judyt