From WIKIPEDIA: "critics or opponents they contend stand in
overt opposition to their church's practices or teachings."
ANTI Christian is also - critics OR opponents of Christian
practices & teachings
My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of
all the sects was right.... I was answered that I
must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and
the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were
an abomination in his sight; that those professors
were all corrupt.... (Pearl of Great Price, 1981,
Joseph Smith-History 1:18-19)
If that is NOT a ANTI Christian what is?
Not only are all the sects wrong but the individuals are ALL
Corrupt!
CREED: 1. A formal statement of religious
belief; a confession of faith. 2. A system of belief,
principles, or opinions: laws banning discrimination on the basis
of race or creed; an architectural creed that demanded simple lines.
Do you agree with these ANTI Christian teachings (above &
below) of your church?
(NOTE - DISCLAIMER these quotes are from LDS not NEO's on TT)
I [Joseph Smith] believe the Bible as it read
when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant
translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests
have committed many errors. (Teachings of the Prophet
Joseph Smith, p.327)
...It was not until February 16, 1832, however, after a conference
in Amherst, Ohio, that Joseph said it was apparent to him, "from sundry
revelations which had been received, "that "many important
points touching the salvation of man had been taken
from the Bible, or lost before it was
compiled." (Preface to D & C 76.)
“The Lone and Dreary World” (A part of the L.D.S. Temple Ceremony
representing the Telestial Kingdom, or the world we now live in. The
wording may vary somewhat from one temple to another).
Lucifer: Oh, I see, you want religion. You want someone to preach to
you. I’ll have some preachers here presently.
Preacher: My! A fine congregation!
Lucifer: Oh, are you a preacher?
Preacher: Yes.
Lucifer: Have you been to college and received training for the
ministry?
Preacher: Why, certainly. A man cannot preach unless he has
been trained for the ministry. Lucifer: Well, do you preach orthodox
religion?
Preacher: Yes, that is what I preach.
Lucifer: Well, if you’ll preach your orthodox religion to this
people and convert them, I’ll pay you well.
Preacher: I’ll do my best. Good morning, sir.
“What! are Christians ignorant? Yes, as
ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast”. John Taylor
(Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, pag. 25).
“We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack
of nonsense....It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol;
it is as corrupt as hell; and the devil could not
invent a better engine to spread his work that the Christianity of the
nineteenth century”. John Taylor, (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, pag.
167).
“The Christian world, I discovered, was like
the captain and crew of a vessel on the ocean without a compass, and
tossed to and fro withersoever the wind listed to blow them. When the
light came to me, I saw that all the so-called Christian world
was groveling in darkness”. Brigham Young (Journal of
Discourses, Vol. 5, pag. 73).
“The Christian world, so called, are heathens
as to their knowledge of the salvation of God”. Brigham Young (Journal
of Discourses, Vol. 8, pag. 171).
“The titles church of the devil and great
and abominable church are used to identify all churches...--which
are designed to take men on a course that leads away from God and his
laws and thus from salvation...There is no salvation outside this one
true Church,...” “There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter day Saints. (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 2, pp.
1-350”). Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 137, 138, 670.
Who or what is God? Is he the incomprehensible, uncreated,
immaterial nothingness described in the creeds of Christendom.
A three-in-one nothingness, a spirit essence filling
immensity, an incorporeal, uncreated being incapable of definition or
mortal comprehension, an unknown God who does not appear to men?
McConkie, Bruce. The Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Matthew -
Revelation. Salt Lake City, UT: Bookcraft, 1976-1977 (3 Vols.) (Vol.2
p.113)
"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan
rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts,
p.116)
The immateriality of God as asserted in these declarations of
sectarian faith is entirely at variance with the scriptures,
and absolutely contradicted by the revelations of God's person and
attributes. We affirm that to deny the materiality of God's person is
to deny God; for a thing without parts has no whole, and an immaterial
body cannot exist. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
proclaims against the incomprehensible God, devoid of "body parts, or
passions," as a thing impossible of existence, and asserts its belief
in and allegiance to the true and living God of scripture and
revelation. Talmage, James E. A Study of the Articles of Faith. Salt
Lake City, UT: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, 1977.
(P.48)
False creeds teach that God is a spirit essence
that fills the immensity of space and is everywhere and nowhere in
particular present. In a vain attempt to support this doctrine,
formulated by councils in the early days of the great apostasy, it is
common for apologists to point to the statement in the King James Bible
which says "God is a Spirit" (John 4:22-24). The fact is that this
passage is mistranslated; instead, the correct statement,
quoted in context reads: "The hour cometh, and, now is, when the true
worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the
Father seeketh such to worship him. For unto such hath God promised his
Spirit. And they who worship him, must worship in spirit and in truth,
(Inspired Version, John 4:25-26). McConkie, Bruce R. Mormon Doctrine.
Salt Lake City, UT: Bookcraft, 1977. (P.318)
"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a
being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, Journal of
Discourses 23:243)
“Christians speak often of the blood
of Christ and its cleansing power. Much that is believed
and taught on this subject, however, is such utter nonsense
and so palpably false that to believe it is to lose
one’s salvation”. What the MORMONS think of CHRIST, L.D.S.
pamphlet, pag.22.
You can't have it both ways, which is it?
Mormonism
is ANTI Christian to the core!
DAVEH:
Thanx for your reply, Perry. Apparently we have a difference of
definitions. Anti-Mormon is a term defined primarily by
Mormons to describe people like you and Kevin, so I'm curious to know
why you would want to change the definition to exclude yourself. A
pretty good definition is detailed at.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mormon
.......By that definition, would you not be properly labeled as an
anti-Mormon? If not, how do you define anti-Mormon, Perry?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
It would not, since I am not against mormons, per se. I am
against mormoniISM. Not the poor deceived messengers of satan that
promote it. Call me anti-statan, or more specifically, anti-mormonism.
You can continue to call me anti-mormon if you want to disperse me :-),
but that is not accurate.
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dispersions
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 07:04:42 -0700
DAVEH: Why would you consider me anti-Christian, Kevin? Have I been
attacking Jesus?
Perry on the other hand has admitted to attacking Mormonism, so the
anti-Mormon label would be appropriate, would it not?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
You are very perceptive, I am a very
sensitive guy : )
I have no problems with labels a wear a few.
I do have a problem when it is a manuever to discredit the messenger
without dealing with the issues.
By the way I believe most of the labels I have posted are of a
theological bent (liberal) not such as emotional (ANGRY) or
psychological (mental)
So if Perry is ANTI Mormon then you qualify on the same grounds as ANTI
Christian!
