RE: [TruthTalk] Anti-Christian

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God decides who is anti-Christian.  It is anyone who is against Christ and His true gospel.  That includes JSmith and all his devotees, however misguided. Izzy   Matt 12:30"He who is not with Me is against Me”   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:12 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Anti-Christian   DAVEH:  Sure it does, Lance.  Do Christians ever use the term, anti-Christian?  Or, is it simply a term Perry/Kevin coined to label me with in an effort to disparage my belief in Jesus?  That I would disagree or even argue that another's Christian based theology is misguided would not make me an anti-Christian.  Even if I were right in that thinking, it would not make the other person not a Christian.  As long as his beliefs are based on Christian principles (rightly or wrongly), he would by dictionary definitions be a Christian.     LDS folks did coin the anti-Mormon term, and subsequently defined it in effect as one who actively preaches against and denigrates LDS theology.  If Perry/Kevin want to label me anti-Christian, then the similarity does not hold as I do not actively preach against Jesus.     From what I remember about your posts, you do not actively denigrate LDS theology.  Hence I do not consider you an anti-Mormon.  That you don't believe LDS theology does not enter into the equation.  It is your intent, as I see it.  Perry and Kevin on the other hand have demonstrated their desire to actively fight against LDS theology, hence they meet the qualification of being an anti-Mormon.  Do you see the difference....it seems to me to be the intent, as well as the actions.     I hope I've not muddled that up as I've tried to explain it. Lance Muir wrote: DH:Intent does play a part.   DAVEH:  Ahhhhhhh, thanx for the explanation, Lance.  I wouldrespectfully disagree with you though.  If two people sincerely believethey are Christians, in the sense of following the admonitions of Jesusas they understand them, then neither would be an anti-Christian in myopinion....even though one (or perhaps both) are believing/teachingthings about Jesus that may not be true.  As I see it, an anti-Christianwould be one who is defiantly teaching against Jesus, and the term wouldnot apply to one who is simply mistaken in his beliefs about Jesus. Lance Muir wrote:     When you believe/teach a Jesus who is other than Who He really is then,      you  are anti-Christ. This would/could be equally true of some non-MormonChristians.         DAVEH:  You've lost me on this one, Lance....Will you please rephrase itso a sleepy Mormon boy can understand the question? Lance Muir wrote:           YOU ARE INDEED IFF what you have come to believe is, in reality, not          the  true gospel. Would you not agree?  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>Sent: May 09, 2005 10:04Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Dispersions                DAVEH:  Why would you consider me anti-Christian, Kevin?  Have I beenattacking Jesus?   Perry on the other hand has admitted to attacking Mormonism, so theanti-Mormon label would be appropriate, would it not? Kevin Deegan wrote:                 You are very perceptive, I am a very sensitive guy : ) I have no problems with labels a wear a few.I do have a problem when it is a manuever to discredit the messengerwithout dealing with the issues.By the way I believe most of the labels I have posted are of atheological bent (liberal) not such as emotional (ANGRY) orpsychological (mental)So if Perry is ANTI Mormon then you qualify on the same grounds asANTI Christian!                 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dave Hansen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.langlitz.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~If you wish to receivethings I find interesting,I maintain six email lists...JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS,STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.  ----------"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may    know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org  If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to    [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.  ----------"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.     -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dave Hansen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.langlitz.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~If you wish to receivethings I find interesting,I maintain six email lists...JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS,STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.