Dave,
I see a dilemma in your statement that Jesus was a god before he came to earth as a human, when compared to your own position (not a god) prior to coming to earth as a human. In my non-mormon mind that is contradictive. I am trying to understand how YOU resolve that conflict. I want to see if you have an answer I can find REASONABLE, or if you will use of smoke, mirrors, and prooftexts to explain it away, or if you will sidestep the issue. These are the three types of responses I have seen you provide for various discussions and questions in the past.
Obviously, you also see the dilemma and have no REASONABLE answer, so sidestepping must be the best tool in your mormon toolbox to deal with the issue. Whining about my motives is a red herring.
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:59:35 -0700
DAVEH: I've got no problem answering somebody who really wants to know, Perry. I just question your motives. Why do you want to know? It seems obvious that you don't particularly care to know what I believe, since you think my beliefs are in error and have proclaimed your desire to prove it false. Like Kevin, you seem more intent on belittling my faith than in participating in a viable exchange. If I answer your below question, you will merely ask another, and perhaps another after that, in effect causing me to/ teach Mormonism/.....is that what you really want???
If you persist in insisting that I am deceptive about my reasons for joining TT, then I do find it strange that you would expect me to answer your questions using my LDS rooted beliefs.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
I notice that you often answer a question with another question. If you don't want to answer it, just say so.
It is a direct question with a yes or no answer. But, if you have no answer that is okay, just say so. Here is my planned responses should you choose to answer the question:
1) if you say "yes" then I will ask you why you did not retain any of your godly powers, as jesus did, when you cam to earth and why you have to work to become a god all over again.
2) if you say "no", then I will ask you why your brother jesus got to be a god before he became a man, but you didn't.
Again, if you do not want to answer, just say so. I am just trying to figure out the statement you made that jesus was a god before coming to earth, and whether you were or were not, and why that is.
Perry
DAVEH: Another leading question, Perry? Do you intend to criticize me again for answering your question???
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
If you believe jesus was a god before he became a man, as you stated, and you are his brother, then were you a god before you became a a man?
Perry
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