JD the progression was as follows (see below) - as
usual (for some of you) every road leads to the failure and false gifting
of DM so the discussion progressed from worship to
spiritual discernment and who is qualified to discern. Here
you have been using part of the thread 'out of context' to make it into something
else which is what happens with God's Word continually.....
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Wrong again. The words, below, are your original post, Judy. The post preeceding this one has me talking about something else and you dragging Lance and Gary's names into the subject. I question you on this, wondering why you have included them in your response when I had not refereneced them at all, and this "origianl post" is your defence of that strange occurance. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL. Eventually, my response to your false accusations was to cite Lance's several posts proving that his concerns in script included much much more than comments about the movies. JDJD, you are perverting the truth once more .. The thread actually began (for me) with my response to an item posted by Lance about worship shaping spirituality where he quoted Polyani and my response in part was as follows:jt: I would disagree with the above statement Lance - Is it yours? Actually spirituality shapes worship rather than vice-versa because trueworship depends upon a correct heart attitude and we do not enter God's presence just any old way - We must properly prepare ourselves to worship.. And God does not accept all of it. He spoke through the prophet Amos and told the Israel of that day that their feasts and worship times literally made him want to vomit ... He also spoke through the prophet Isaiah about a crowd who were pretty pleased with themselves and these descended into sheol rejoicing. Sure it does, these are the ones who descended into Sheoll rejoicing ... read about it in Isaiah 5:13,14Lance wrote:Are we ALL as predictable as you, Judy? Given this I'm not sure why you don't just have two 'repeater' words: 'Amen' for David (by extension, Christine), Izzie& Kevin. 'Nein' for all of the rest of us. The time you could save, Judy!G's contribution = On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:57:29 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitudeOn Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:true worship depends upon a correct heart attitude===================================================================================
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This is not the original - this is me explaining the original. You'll have to do better than this... jtOn Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:04:55 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Here is your original post, Mrs Taylor. I am the one who spoke of rooting and grounding -- not you. but you can read it for yourself.Gary & Lance are referenced in my wording not yours because they are two of the three who are most critical of David Miller and his spiritual gift. I'd be interested in some examples of the rooting and grounding (in God's Word) that you perceive in the writings of both Lance and Gary JD. Lance is an expert in old movies and this is what he writes about. Gary is taken up with his own writings, those of Bob Dylan, and the word "myth" ... So how about giving me some examples of what I have missed. jtAnd here is what you said you said:Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor Gary weresufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to correctly discern a genuine spiritual gift in operation.Look in the archives. This is what I said. jtNot having a good week, are we?
JD
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Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor Gary weresufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to correctly discern a genuine spiritual gift in operation.Look in the archives. This is what I said. jtOn Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:34:04 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:In your first post on this subject, you did not say that at all, Mrs. Taylor. Not even close.But your side does not care what it has written -- only what it says it has written. Let's move on.JdThat is your myth (read lie) JD because I never made a statement anything like what you have written below. Did I say Gary O never reads the Bible? What I said is that he is not sufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to discern what is and what is not a genuine spiritual gift in operation. Actually I suspect hewould say they are all bogus because of the fact that he is Calvinistic at heart. jtOn Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:01:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:myth (read:lie) : Gary O has no relationship with the Word of GodJD
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Isaiah's point about false worship solidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting in man'; in ch5, Isaiah condemns the arrogant attitude/s of God's people; e.g., '..you live alone in the land' (5:8), a criticism of their economics which reflects their real poverty (lording themselves over the poor)..apparently such poverty results primarily from man-centeredness witnessed in the philosophy partic of the/ir religious establishment (cp. 3:12, 14); also, 5:14 does not mention 'hell'--its about a blessed society trapped in the throes of (its) spiritual suicideOn Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:44:34 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:. read ..Isaiah 5:13,14
