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Stuffing controversial matters is not good Lance, it leads to problems
later when it comes up to bite you, but it's your choice. What David and
Christine choose to do with their time is between them and the Lord, I am
talking with you now on TT - not them but for some reason we can
never deal with an idea or an issue aside from evaluating and involving
other persons - now why is that???
I do understand that the 'arts' is a sore point
for you, Judy. Rather than pursuing it to no good end, why not just move on to
other matters. Should someone else wish to engage you they may do so. By the
by, I believe that David & Christine went to see the new Star Wars Movie
recently and, IMO, David wrote an excellent review/summary. Were I to name a
'must see' movie just now, it'd be 'Crash'. Now, a house church might have a
great conversation following a collective viewing of that. Keep in mind, Judy,
that the latter portion of this is not directed to you.
Lance, have you never pondered on the fact that Israel had no "arts"
spatial or otherwise; and no entertainments or amusements. You would think
God would have instructed the Levites to perform little skits and things to
help them to understand what He was telling them wouldn't you? How
could He expect them to stand out there every 7yrs and just hear His Law
read to them??
No need for sorrow, Judy. Neither do I wish
for you to trust MY judgment on anything. Be comfortable trusting your own
judgment, under God.
Entertainment - or a-muse-ment;
Sorry Lance - I don't trust your judgment regarding what God
is comfortable with. jt
God, IMO, is comfortable with you being a
cultural luddite so relax on the 'entertainment'
front.
Why of course Lance, these are the ppl
who are epistemologically the same as you, so why not?
On another note. Yesterday there was an interview with the late
Ann Bancroft in our local paper and when asked to explain her
ability to play such diverse roles, she told the Virginian-Pilot in
2001 "To be an actress, you have to be a liar" - so there you
are. Why waste God's time watching and quoting 'good
liars?'
Within the 'Three-Personed God'. It
is 'mediated' to us by The Spirit' through The Scriptures.
Humankind (women/men) must speak of that which we come to believe
(Truth).We are not the final arbiters. What indeed is 'A Proper
Confidence'? On TT, I saw it (epistemological humility) best
exemplified in Bill, Caroline and Debbie.
We do not decide upon a Truth. You do, we don't.
The Holy Spirit leads us into ALL Truth.
Your doctrines are repugnant
You are the personification of them and therefore have not
come to a settling of what is and what aint!
The Bible decides upon a Truth, we align ourselves to it.
You align to your own ideas.
You have no final authority, other than yourself.
Every way of a man is right in
his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the
hearts. We have
also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye
take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until
the day dawn, and the day star arise in your
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When we decide upon a "truth," finalize that in our
mind and even institutionalize the concept, we close the
door to further examination. With that door
closed, we are shut off from amending our point of
view. We stop growing and declare to all who will
listen, "I have arrived by the grace of God, of
course." On the occasion that we institutionalize
the matter, we close the door for re-examination to all
others -- a kind of excathedra
statement. The evangelical church has done this
with her doctrine of "inspiration." It has so
formalized the teaching as to make it even dangerous to
openingly disuss other possiblities to "verbal and
plenary." A disciple, new to the faith of the
Evangelicals, must quickly learn what can be questioned
and what cannot if he/she is to remain within the
fellowship. Perhaps this is true in the high
church as well -- I do not know.
JD
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JD Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing
that is final
So you say.
Then I can never really know if what you are saying even
now is true.
Why are you always looking to talk people out of knowing
the truth?
Do you want them to end up like you, questioning
everything?
Or so you can then become the one (the authority) to
point them in to the way right behind you?
Prov 22 That I might make
thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that
thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto
thee
Maybe that is why you struggle with addictions.
JN 8:32 And ye shall know
the truth, and the truth shall make you
free.
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It has occurred to me that if we speak and write with
the view in mind that we at the beginning of another day of
learning, our hearts and minds will be more open to
what God has instore. Perhaps our doctrinal statements
should not be "as if written n stone.' But
reflective of the growth that will begin again with the
start of a new day.
We would do less fighting and more growing.
That is what I Cor
8:1-3 is saying, ---- is it
not? Paul is surely NOT against knowing but
knowing that is final, a closed systems of
knowledge.
Jd
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