Lance, what I also hear is that we all choose to believe what we want to believe, regardless of the facts, or lack thereof.

However, I believe that when a grain of truth is revealed, but not immediately accepted, a cognitive dissonance is created and stored away that must eventually be resolved. This, I believe, is why people that, for example, become a Christian after denying the evidence for years, suddenly believe it ALL. The act of becoming a Christian resolves all of the small dissonant ideas they have stored away. So, I beleive that if Blaine ever decides to become a Christian, thus resolving all of the small dissonant facts he has stored away, he will be one of the greatest Christians ever. That is to say, when he takes all of the energy he expends defending a false religion, and turns it toward defending the truth, watch out!

I speak from my own experience. I got to the point where I could no longer deny the truth. All of the lies I told myself about why I could not accept Christianity vanished literally overnight, and all of the truths I had learned through the years, but not accepted, all became a viable part of my belief.

Perry

From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:05:42 -0400

Even if, if, if, if you were absolutely correct, CPL, you know that he is
NOT prepared to acknowledge this. Please read my post on 'belief'. You are
as likely to be posting as a Mormon as he (Blaine) is likely to be posting
as what you deem to be a 'christian'.

If there is present on TT a six day young earth creationist, can you or
anyone on TT imagine them forfeiting this 'belief' in order to believe
'teleological evolutionism'? Impossible? No! Likely? Snowball's chance...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: June 13, 2005 08:55
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah


> Baline,
>
>    Sometimes it is right to doubt. But, when shown the evidence, even
Thomas
> believed.  We will only know for sure when you present the facts and let
me
> evaluate them. The point is that if there is no real evidence, then the
> scripture is most likely not related to the anecdote at all.
>
> Blaine, are you willing to admit that since there is no real evidence,
> then it is possible that the scripture is not related to the anecdote?
>
> Perry
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> >Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:55:37 EDT
> >
> >
> >
> >Blaine:  Probably nothing that would satisfy your "Doubting Thomas"
> >attitude, Perry.
> >
> >In a message dated 6/11/2005 10:34:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >Yes, I have heard that story, but that does not relate the event to the
> >Isaiah  passage. We still have two separate stories with no ties other
than
> >some  common words. One from scripture, one anecdotal. Do you have
anything
> >that  actually links them?
> >
> >Perry
> >
> > >From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > >To:  [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill  Cumorah
> > >Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:28:12  EDT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Blaine:  Have you not read/heard the  story of  Martin Harris  taking
> > >characters copied from the  plates (by JS) to Professor Charles
Anthon,
> >and
> >
> > >first
> > >being told they were true characters, but then being rebuffed by him
> >when
> > >he was
> > >told a portion of the plates were sealed, and therefore could not be
> > >dellivered to him for  translation?
> > >
> > >In a message dated 6/11/2005 8:18:53 PM Mountain  Standard Time,
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >
> > >Blaine   wrote: The sealed portion has yet to be  translated, but
> >contains
> > >"the vision of all."   see Isaiah.   29:11
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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