My wife would be telling me, CPL, that this is not the time to be responding to you. My wife, however, is off 'principalling' 750 unruly kids so, I'll proceed.
You write well. You exhibit, on the whole, a gracious .disposition' (virtually, of course). You demonstrate a fair knowledge of LDS history and doctrine.The research you do, when called for, is first rate. Your demeanor, when engaging those of the Mormon persuasion, is often patronizing and repetitive. Even should they not find you so, I do. As to 'being a supporter of Satan', Mr. Moderator, if being thick-headed in one's approach qualifies then, look in the mirror. IMO, you've made no headway since my arrival on TT so, put a sock in it will ya? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: June 15, 2005 10:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I may be as informed on the Mormon 'faith' as yourself. > > Yes, you may be. But that is not the issue. > > >Some years back I discovered myself to have known more concerning the LDS > >than the majority of those with whom I spoke. > > What does that mean? I have found that the majority of the Christians I > speak to do not even know who Joseph Smith is! > > Furthermore, do you truly believe that they are "latter day saints" and all > that it implies (and since you may be as informed as I about mormonism, you > may know all that it implies)? Do you think that name which Satan has given > them applies? If not, then why do you support Satan by using it? To use that > name is to buy into the deception that is the mormon church. I use mormonism > with a little g to not show any reverence towards it's tenets, founder, or > inspirer, and to be honest, "Smithism" is probably the most accurate term, > but I avoid it since it sometimes confuses other TT'rs. > > >I do not think it necessary to profane what others deem sacred. Do you? > > Necessary? No, but I guess that could depend on what they deem sacred. I > have no problem profaning that which is of Satan. > > I am sure it is no suprise to anyone on this forum that I consider the > mormon god and jesus to be false, and the religion in general to be inspired > by Satan, as it bears his signature throughout. I have stated these things > openly for about the last two and one half years, and use many opportunities > to point out the blatantly false and often absurd nature of it. > > I do not believe that my question to Blaine, while it did contain an > element of "cuteness" that I probably could have omitted, was any different > than anything else I have been posting for the last two years. What was it > about this particular post that got you all spun up? Is there something > about my profaning Satan that stirs you up? > > Additionally, I don't think your posts have been totally without some > condesension, and at time quite insensitive. Have your repented from making > those types of posts yourself so that you can criticize mine? > > And finally, while you may not have considered my post to be in good > taste, which it probably was not, it contained no ad hominem attack on > either Blaine or his grandfather (or you, for that matter). > > Perry > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: June 14, 2005 13:41 > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah > > > > > > > Lance, > > > > > > Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and > > > sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that > >question > >is > > > two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially > >awaits > > > good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may > >get > > > chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if > > > Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. > >As > > > for the "pitter-patter" of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip > >based > > > on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human > > > children are born. > > > > > > It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they > >die, > > > have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as > > > their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit > > > wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan, > > > Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon > >would > > > find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I > > > askedof their deceased grandfatherr, "was he a believer", implying all > >that > > > we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible > >that > > > Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a > > > great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If > >he > > > has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an > >opinion > > > relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather > > > performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he > >mey > > > reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not > >heard > > > directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he > > > wishes, or not. > > > > > > Perry > > > > > > > > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400 > > > > > > > >Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary. > > > > > > > >L > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26 > > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and > > > >possible > > > > > the pitter-patter of little spirit feet? > > > > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah > > > > > >Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon > >our > > > >view > > > > > >of > > > > > > > > > > > > >the credibility of the "truth source" closest to us in terms of > >time > > > >and > > > > > > >space. I mean, if Blaine was "born a Mormon,' his first > >source > > > >of > > > > > > >"truth" would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- > >his > > > > > >parents > > > > > > >or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by > >the > > > > > >time > > > > > > >he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a > >systematize > > > >faith > > > > > > >that little will prevail against it. THAT'S NORMAL. Blaine > >may > > > >or > > > > > >not > > > > > > >believe this -- but -------------------- THANK GOD WE DO NOT > >HAVE > > > >TO > > > > > >BE > > > > > > >RIGHT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >JD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children > >end > > > >up > > > > > >believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and > >guidance > > > >from > > > > > >my mom > > > > > >and dad. My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his > > > >example. > > > > > >He > > > > > >served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane, > > > > > >Washington. > > > > > >He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. > >in > > > >his > > > > > >writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required > >those > >he > > > >saw > > > > > >in > > > > > >court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He > >was > > > >always > > > > > >in > > > > > >favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any > > > >belief > > > > > >that > > > > > >advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value > >systems > > > > > >that > > > > > >got people into trouble with the law. 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