Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:18 -0700

Can you explain just what exactly is the problem Lance?
or should we assume their is one since you raised an objection?

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It was and, is, Mr. Moderator, my suggestion that you 'moderate' yourself.
My suggestion stands in spite of your less than adequate explanation.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: June 14, 2005 13:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah


> Lance,
>
> Thanks for your concern for Blaine and over the legitimacy and
> sensitivity of my line of questioning. My reason for asking that question
is
> two-fold. One is to relate to the rest of the group what potentially
awaits
> good mormon men who transition from men to gods and the women who may get
> chosen to be their eternal soirit wives. The second is to determine if
> Blaine has any insight or opinoin into his grandfather's current state. As
> for the "pitter-patter" of spirit feet, I thought that was a cute quip
based
> on the parallel earthly phrase meaning the same thing when earthly human
> children are born.
>
> It is a common mormon belief that mormons can become gods after they
die,
> have spirit wives, produce spirit babies, and populate a planet, just as
> their current god, originally from the planet Kolob, did with his spirit
> wives and this planet, Earth. I know several of his offspring...Satan,
> Jesus, Dave, and Blaine, to name a few. I do not think that a mormon would
> find this question offensive, no more so would any Christian of whom I
> askedof their deceased grandfatherr, "was he a believer", implying all
that
> we believe happens to a believer who dies. Besides, it is also possible
that
> Blaine had heard from his grandfather from beyond the grave, as he did a
> great aunt, I believe it was, and knows the answer to these things. If he
> has received no message from his grandfather, then perhaps he has an
opinion
> relative to that question. For example, if he knows that his grandfather
> performed all of the earthly works necessary to become a god, then he mey
> reply with certainty that he is in such a state, although he has not heard
> directly from him. And, since Blaine is a big boy, he can respond if he
> wishes, or not.
>
> Perry
>
> >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> >Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400
> >
> >Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary.
> >
> >L
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To:
> >Sent: June 13, 2005 23:26
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> >
> >
> > > Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and
> >possible
> > > the pitter-patter of little spirit feet?
> > >
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
> > > >Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >In a message dated 6/13/2005 2:09:44 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > >
> > > > >I would think that we all choose to believe whatever based upon
our
> >view
> > > >of
> > > >
> > > > >the credibility of the "truth source" closest to us in terms of
time
> >and
> > > > >space. I mean, if Blaine was "born a Mormon,' his first source
> >of
> > > > >"truth" would be his parents. Who's he going to believe -- his
> > > >parents
> > > > >or some guy standing cross the street waving underwear. And, by
the
> > > >time
> > > > >he gets to a free thinking age, he already has such a systematize
> >faith
> > > > >that little will prevail against it. THAT'S NORMAL. Blaine
may
> >or
> > > >not
> > > > >believe this -- but -------------------- THANK GOD WE DO NOT
HAVE
> >TO
> > > >BE
> > > > >RIGHT.
> > > > >
> > > > >JD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Blaine: Good, JD. I agree parents are critical in what children
end
> >up
> > > >believing. I am very fortunate to have had good advice and guidance
> >from
> > > >my mom
> > > >and dad. My grandpa was also very influential, mostly by his
> >example.
> > > >He
> > > >served two missions (LDS) to Norway, and another one to Spokane,
> > > >Washington.
> > > >He recorded many miraculous healings, casting out of devils, etc. in
> >his
> > > >writings. He was a Judge in regular life, and often required those
he
> >saw
> > > >in
> > > >court to go to church, the denomination being left to them. He was
> >always
> > > >in
> > > >favor of religious training, regardless of the belief system. Any
> >belief
> > > >that
> > > >advocates Christian values, he felt, was better than the value
systems
> > > >that
> > > >got people into trouble with the law. Nevertheless, he lived and
died
> >by
> > > >the
> > > >LDS doctrines.
> > >
> > >
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may
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