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I'm confident that you wouldn't be INTENTIONALLY
EVASIVE so, please answer the question as asked. Employing the 'model'
(placards, bullhorns etc.)provided for us by DM & Kevin vis a vis the Super
Bowl, Mardis Gras and, outside the Temple in Salt Lake City, would they do the
same thing outside a mosque (a Muslim place of worship) and, if not then, whey
not?
Do revisit what kicked this discussion off. There
is a serious point to be made here.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 20, 2005 06:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
I don't know about DavidM but I'm sure Kevin and
Ruben have encountered Muslims in their SP travels. I figure it
would be tit for tat (with truth on their side) since
Muslims call everyone and everything Western "the great Satan" My Scots
friend tells me that in the UK the Muslims have
taken over and that now the Red Cross will not put anything Christian out at
Christmas for fear of offending them. Her
brother in Manchester England says he will not give the Red Cross another cent
because of it and he isn't even religious.
jt
I do not have a problem with 'exposure'. I
don't think that that is Dave's point though.
May I suggest that an equal. if not greater,
danger to believers lies within Islam. Could you imagine David Miller
or Kevin going to Mosques and, utilizing bullhorns, villify the attendants
by addressing THEM as servants of Satan?
I would think it would be more like Jeremiah (see
Jer 13:1,2); this is obviously a one time object lesson to
the part of Israel Jeremiah was ministering to
rather than a pattern of behavior for all time. However, part of
public proclamation of Truth by nature involves exposing the lie
of the false gods which of course will be
offensive to those who worship them. Why do you have such a problem with this? jt
Elijah.
Can you give us a "for instance" DaveH?
jt
DAVEH:
As I understand your position (and please correct me if I am
misunderstanding your position), many Christians
(specifically you, in this instance) believe that everything
written in the Bible is specifically applicable to
Christians today. So, if a prophet of the Bible
used a technique of mocking, that means it is OK for you to
do the same thing. If a prophet of God in the Bible is
commanded to go preach on the streets, you assume that
instruction applies to you as well....is that correct,
Kevin?
To me, that isn't logical
at all. Just as what he compelled the prophets of the
OT to do was not necessarily applicable to the prophets of
the NT, what the Lord wants us to do today may or may not be
what he wants us to do today. It
seems to me that the Lord over time has commanded various
people to do things that he may not have commanded at a
subsequent time or other peoples. Hope
that makes some sense.....
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: And because some of the early
prophets mocked with God's blessing, you believe it is
your right to do so as well? Isn't that stretching
logic a bit beyond it's breaking
point?
NO
How so?
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
Yes, but where they "Contending for the
faith"? DAVEH: What do you think
they were disputi9ng if it wasn't their perspecdtive of
the faith? Don't you think they were arguing the
truth as they saw it, perhaps in the same way it is done
on TT occassionally?
Please show me where God admonished Paul, for his
"much contention" DAVEH: My last
post about admonishment was regarding the bickering (if
that's the proper word for it) Christians who Paul
admonished.
If you were
an apostle as was Paul and admonished me for arguing
about theology, I would pay heed. But I don't
think you've even claimed to be an apostle,
Kevin. (Am I wrong on that?) >From
my perspective you seem to be one who is contributing to
the contention. Why do you think Paul's
admonishment not to contend (Titus 3:9) doesn't apply to
you? Isn't it just a matter of perspective?
If another TTer were to argue against your understanding
of whatever doctrine, why do you think you would be in
the right and he would be in the wrong? Do you
sincerely believe you are right on all your points of
doctrine, or do you allow you may at times be wrong?
Show me where Elijah was admonished in the
scriptures for MOCKING.
In fact right after Elijah Mocking the prophets
of Baal, God answered his
prayer. DAVEH: And because some
of the early prophets mocked with God's blessing, you
believe it is your right to do so as well? Isn't
that stretching logic a bit beyond it's breaking
point?
God Mocks
Prov 1:26
Because I have called, and ye refused...
But ye have set at nought
all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your
calamity; I will mock when your fear
comethDave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Were not a lot of early Christians in contention,
and admonished for it?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
No read the scriptures. They were "IN God"
with MUCH Contention. Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Do you suppose that could have been one of
Paul's faults?
Kevin Deegan
wrote:
> By the way did you know that
Paul was VERY
CONTENTIOUS?
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