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I looked at the photo-journal of the SPer's trip.
What a waste! A Muslim country? You live in one. As for both trips; the one
taken and the one projected, why not take care of 'business' at home? My
question was:Why not replicate in front of 'your' Mosques what you do at Mardi
Gras, Super Bowl etc.? You won't and, for good reason.
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Sent: June 20, 2005 18:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
Want to come with us to a muslim country to preach? Lance
Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Now, there's a collection of pictures I'd enjoy
having a look at.Of course y'all do this with the same frequency as the
others, eh? Will you tell which Mosques, how many and, with what
frequency?
Do 'you' believe that Muhammed was inspired to
write the Koran by the same one who inspired the BOM namely,
Satan?
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Sent: June 20, 2005 14:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
The plain answer is yes
I'm confident that you wouldn't be
INTENTIONALLY EVASIVE so, please answer the question as asked. Employing
the 'model' (placards, bullhorns etc.)provided for us by DM & Kevin
vis a vis the Super Bowl, Mardis Gras and, outside the Temple in Salt
Lake City, would they do the same thing outside a mosque (a Muslim place
of worship) and, if not then, whey not?
Do revisit what kicked this discussion off.
There is a serious point to be made here.
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Sent: June 20, 2005 06:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
I don't know about DavidM but I'm sure Kevin
and Ruben have encountered Muslims in their SP travels. I figure
it
would be tit for tat (with truth on their
side) since Muslims call everyone and everything Western "the great
Satan" My Scots friend tells me that
in the UK the Muslims have taken over and that now the Red Cross will
not put anything Christian out at Christmas for fear of offending them. Her brother in
Manchester England says he will not give the Red Cross another cent
because of it and he isn't even
religious. jt
I do not have a problem with
'exposure'. I don't think that that is Dave's point
though.
May I suggest that an equal. if not
greater, danger to believers lies within Islam. Could you
imagine David Miller or Kevin going to Mosques and, utilizing
bullhorns, villify the attendants by addressing THEM as servants of
Satan?
I would think it would be more like
Jeremiah (see Jer 13:1,2); this is obviously a one time object
lesson to
the part of Israel Jeremiah was
ministering to rather than a pattern of behavior for all
time. However, part of public proclamation of Truth by
nature involves exposing the lie of the false gods which of course will be offensive to
those who worship them. Why do you have such a problem with this?
jt
Elijah.
Can you give us a "for instance"
DaveH? jt
DAVEH:
As I understand your position (and please correct me
if I am misunderstanding your position), many
Christians (specifically you, in this instance)
believe that everything written in the Bible is
specifically applicable to Christians
today. So, if a prophet of the Bible
used a technique of mocking, that means it is OK for
you to do the same thing. If a prophet of God
in the Bible is commanded to go preach on the
streets, you assume that instruction applies to you
as well....is that correct,
Kevin?
To me, that isn't
logical at all. Just as what he compelled the
prophets of the OT to do was not necessarily
applicable to the prophets of the NT, what the Lord
wants us to do today may or may not be what he wants
us to do today. It seems
to me that the Lord over time has commanded various
people to do things that he may not have commanded
at a subsequent time or other
peoples. Hope that makes some
sense.....
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: And because some of the
early prophets mocked with God's blessing, you
believe it is your right to do so as well?
Isn't that stretching logic a bit beyond it's
breaking point?
NO
How so?
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
Yes, but where they "Contending for the
faith"? DAVEH: What do
you think they were disputi9ng if it wasn't
their perspecdtive of the faith? Don't you
think they were arguing the truth as they saw
it, perhaps in the same way it is done on TT
occassionally?
Please show me where God admonished Paul,
for his "much
contention" DAVEH: My
last post about admonishment was regarding the
bickering (if that's the proper word for it)
Christians who Paul admonished.
If you were an
apostle as was Paul and admonished me for
arguing about theology, I would pay heed.
But I don't think you've even claimed to be an
apostle, Kevin. (Am I wrong on
that?) >From my perspective you seem to
be one who is contributing to the
contention. Why do you think Paul's
admonishment not to contend (Titus 3:9) doesn't
apply to you? Isn't it just a matter of
perspective? If another TTer were to argue
against your understanding of whatever doctrine,
why do you think you would be in the right and
he would be in the wrong? Do you sincerely
believe you are right on all your points of
doctrine, or do you allow you may at times be
wrong?
Show me where Elijah was admonished in the
scriptures for MOCKING.
In fact right after Elijah Mocking the
prophets of Baal, God answered his
prayer. DAVEH: And
because some of the early prophets mocked with
God's blessing, you believe it is your right to
do so as well? Isn't that stretching logic
a bit beyond it's breaking point?
God Mocks
Prov 1:26
Because I have called, and ye
refused... But ye
have set at nought all my counsel, and would
none of my reproof: I also
will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when
your fear
comethDave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Were not a lot of early Christians in
contention, and admonished for it?
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
No read the scriptures. They were "IN God"
with MUCH Contention. Dave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Do you suppose that could have been one of
Paul's faults?
Kevin Deegan
wrote:
> By the way did you know that
Paul was VERY
CONTENTIOUS?
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