John wrote to DaveH:
>>> I have yet to see any accepted doctrine
>>> effected [sic] by textual problems.

Judy wrote:
>> YOU LEFT OF THE OTHER HALF OF THE
>> VERSE - THERE IS A CONDITION JD

John wrote to Judy:
> The "new translation" is the NASV.
> Walking after the Spirit is not in the verse, IMO

LOL.  So do you still think that doctrine accepted by Judy is not affected 
by textual problems?  She tries to make her case by pointing to a specific 
part of the text, only to have you respond that the text she points toward 
is not in your modern version of the Bible.  Perhaps what you meant to say 
is that you don't see where any doctrine that you accept is affected by 
textual problems.  However, we must assume that the doctrine you accept is 
based upon the corrupted modern texts, which means, of course, that you are 
employing circular reasoning.

John wrote:
> but even if it were,  8:5 defines walking in the spirit
> as a state of mind  --   not a physical activity  --
> not obedience.   Nothing wrong with obedience --- 
> but we are saved by faith.   Works come after faith,
> not before.

Romans 8:5 defines the state of mind of those who walk in the spirit.  It 
does teach that walking in the spirit is only a state of mind!

Read Romans 7, John.  Walking in condemnation has to do with doing things 
contrary to the mind of the Spirit.  Romans 8 illuminates us to the idea 
that if we mind the things of the Spirit and have faith in Christ, we will 
walk in the Spirit, meaning that works follow faith, just as you say. 
Therefore, when we walk in the Spirit, we will not experience the 
condemnation talked about in Romans 7, which comes from doing those things 
that you don't want to do.  Our state of mind and our faith determines how 
we live.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 


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