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From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:24:05 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
DAVEH: I should probably wait for the Bishop to explain himself on this, but IF Matthias' name is engraven on the foundation of apostles, then why would not Paul and Barnabas' names be there as well? I explain myself with Rev. 21:14.
BTW...I'm not doubting your explanation, DavidM. I'm just trying to figure out why John wants to limit the apostles to just 12. To me it seems that there was no restriction to just the original 12.....errrrrr....13. As some died, were they not replaced? I believe something like 16 men are named as being "apostles".......in the biblical message. None of the "extras" replaced anyone, that I am aware of. When they died, they were not replaced -- that I know of. Judas is of no consequence to me in this regard. His replacement proves nothing to me -- except that the initial grouping -- the Twelve Apostles - had consideration in the mind of God. I am not emotionally vested in this -- I am only making the biblical point as I see it -- the 12 were considered in a distnct and unique way.& nbsp;
David Miller wrote:
BTW...I'm not doubting your explanation, DavidM. I'm just trying to figure out why John wants to limit the apostles to just 12. To me it seems that there was no restriction to just the original 12.....errrrrr....13. As some died, were they not replaced? I believe something like 16 men are named as being "apostles".......in the biblical message. None of the "extras" replaced anyone, that I am aware of. When they died, they were not replaced -- that I know of. Judas is of no consequence to me in this regard. His replacement proves nothing to me -- except that the initial grouping -- the Twelve Apostles - had consideration in the mind of God. I am not emotionally vested in this -- I am only making the biblical point as I see it -- the 12 were considered in a distnct and unique way.& nbsp;
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:> Then who is the 12th apostle whose name you say> is engraven in the foundation?Matthias, of course (Acts 1).Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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