The Mormon church tries to maintain 12 apostles, which I see as
contrary to the New Testament. It fails to recognize the distinctive nature
of the twelve apostles in Scripture and their eternal governmental position,
and it fails to recognize the continuation of apostles beyond 12 as
exemplified by men like Paul, Barnabas, Silas, etc.
DAVEH: Thank you for your rather detailed explanation. BTW....Your
above three assumptions are incorrect.
David Miller wrote:
DaveH wrote:
IF Matthias' name is engraven on the foundation of apostles,
then why would not Paul and Barnabas' names be there as well?
The twelve have a special governmental role that other apostles do not.
Other than Judas being replaced by Matthias, the twelve were never
"replaced" as they died off. Consider the following passages in regards to
this idea:
Matthew 19:28
(28) And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have
followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne
of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve
tribes of Israel.
Luke 22:28-30
(28) Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations.
(29) And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
(30) That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones
judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Revelation 21:14
(14) And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names
of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
If you look carefully at the following passage from 1 Cor. 15, you will see
how "The Twelve" are spoken about separately from other apostles, including
James the Lord's brother (who wrote the book of James we have in our Bible)
and the apostle Paul.
1 Corinthians 15:3-9
(3) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how
that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
(4) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according
to the scriptures:
(5) And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
(6) After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom
the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
(7) After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
(8) And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
(9) For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an
apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
There are as many as 24 apostles listed in the New Testament if certain
assumptions are made and we include Jesus himself. There were probably many
more than that in that Jesus commended the Ephesian church for testing false
apostles. The Mormon church tries to maintain 12 apostles, which I see as
contrary to the New Testament. It fails to recognize the distinctive nature
of the twelve apostles in Scripture and their eternal governmental position,
and it fails to recognize the continuation of apostles beyond 12 as
exemplified by men like Paul, Barnabas, Silas, etc.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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