Lance,
I agree that "Every christian believer believes 'through' an errant
framework". But how errant is too errant? Is there a line that can be drawn?
In the end either we are saved or we are not. Was our framework "too"
errant? Was our image of Jesus too far from the real Jesus? If we are "too"
errant for salvation, but did not know it, are we saved? These are mighty
questions.
To be totally honest, I cannot say with complete certainty that mormons
are not saved. Maybe their degree of errancy in their image of God and
Christ falls within the "saved" camp. However, from what I read in the
Bible, I believe that they are on the "too errant" side. That is why I spend
the time I do on TT doing what I do. If I did not care I would be silent. If
I thought that they were "in the fold", I would say to them "Welcome,
brothers and sisters."
Perry
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:28:13 -0400
Interesting! (there's that word again) Every christian believer believes
'through' an errant framework. One may believe in a geocentric universe or
a flat earth and, live out a fairly normal life. May one believe 'through'
a Mormon Jesus (assuming this to be a totally aberrant Jesus) into Jesus as
He is? I don't know. What think YE Perry?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 26, 2005 15:06
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Hi Dave,
We would probably have to go into some further detail as to what this
word "salvation" means to us before my answer can suffice -- or perhaps
even be understood (and that is up to you) -- but the short answer is this:
"yes, the only requirement for entrance to heaven" is salvation -- with one
caveat: in Jesus Christ.
I believe that at the point in which death entered the world, salvation
was necessary in order to receive eternal life. Anyone who is mortal and
has died or will die on this earth must necessarily be resurrected (which
is the pivotal aspect in my view of "salvation"; i.e., death being
swallowed up in victory) in order to live forever. In this view, then,
salvation is that which stands between death and an eternal life in
"heaven."
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
DAVEH: Do you believe salvation is the only requirement for entrance
to heaven, Bill? (BTW....I would be most interested to hear the thoughts
of other TTers on this as well.)
Bill Taylor wrote:
A very wise friend of mine is keen on opining that there will be
many Christians who hold grossly heretical beliefs, who upon their passing
will nevertheless find themselves securely in heaven. I agree with him: if
entrance into heaven is predicated upon right and only right thinking, then
I suppose heaven will be a mighty lonely place.
Bill
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