Har de har har (Ralph Kramden for you youngsters). You two illustrate just why there are so many factions on TT.
'god' you don't, even by now, have an understanding of one another's meaning of THAT word? Yikes!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: June 25, 2005 15:51 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief > Lancey, > > The context has changed from our previous discussions, lance. previously > Dave has alwayss discussed from the viewpoint of his mormon views...but now > we are discussing strictly in the context of the Bible. Combine that with > the fact that often the words Christians traditionally use mean different > things when mormons use them, and we have a problem. > > For example the word 'god'. Dave asked me if I could find any verses in the > Bible that indicate that God does not have a body of flesh and bones. To me > that means 'the Father' automatically. I used "the Trinity" when talking > about all three together. I gave him several referencesl. Then he comes back > with the fact that jesus jad a body after resurrection and he thought > Christians believed that. > > WAIT A MINUTE! When Dave says 'god' he can be talking about the father, or > jesus, or the holy spirit, since all three are separate gods to him! I am > just tying to find out in which context he is using the term 'god' so we can > continue. This kind of word play goes on continually when mormons re-define > the words, and when discussing rekigion with mormons, one must CONTINUALLY > be on the alert for redefined words. > > Good night, Lancey. > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief > >Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:25:15 -0400 > > > >Say goodnight, Gracie!! Is this a comedy routine? Given that you two have > >been discussing the content of Mormon theology since Joseph Smith was > >alive, > >it amazes me that you know so little concerning one another's actual > >beliefs. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: June 25, 2005 14:11 > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief > > > > > > > We are mixing apples and oranges, Dave. > > > > > > Jesus does have a resurrected body, but the God Father is Spirit... > >that > > > is, He ain't got no body. > > > > > > Didn't you tell me in a previous post that we woud discuss these > >things > > > based on the Bible? And, didn't you ask if I thought God (the Father) > >had > >a > > > body of flesh and bones, and ask for Biblical evidence that he did not? > >I > > > posted several verses that indicate that He does not. > > > > > > Now for the difference in our viewpoints. You imagine that god (the > > > father) has a body since he was once a man, right? however, there is no > > > biblical verses to support that position...in fact, there are verses, as > >I > > > pointed out, that indicate the complete opposite. > > > > > > When I say 'God' I usually mean "the Father", but sometimes mean the > > > triune God. I will try to distinguish which I mean, if it is not evident > > > from the context. > > > > > > Now, when you say 'God', are you referring to the Father, Jesus, the > >Holy > > > Spirit, any of the three, or all three? > > > > > > Perry > > > > > > >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >DAVEH: DavidM's beliefs are reflected in his understanding of the word > >of > > > >God as revealed in the Bible. My beliefs are based in LDS theology, > >which > > > >recognizes a much broader spectrum of the revealed word of God. > >So....I > > > >see his presumptions as being based on a narrower database than mine. > > > > > > > > As for God having a body of flesh and bone (since the > >resurrection), > >is > > > >there any Christian who can reasonably think he does not have one > > > >considering what Jesus said about his resurrected body of flesh and > >bone? > > > >Is not the basis of Christian belief that Jesus was and remains a > > > >resurrected being, consisting of a body of flesh and bone? And if > >Jesus > > > >is God, why would a Christian today not think God now has a body of > >flesh > > > >and bone, even though he was correctly identified as having a spirit > >body > > > >in the OT? > > > > > > > > This puzzles me, Perry. I see that the Bible teaches the above, > >and > > > >logically I assume Christians would agree with what I explained above. > >Yet > > > >I suspect there are very few Christians who would agree with what I > >wrote > > > >above. Which way do you come down on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > >http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > > >---------- > >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > >know how you ought to answer every man." 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