Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant **

[Bill Taylor]

I concur with you completely (not on the tough choice but the rest of it :) However, even this does not stand as justification for the use of ad hominem argumentum.   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant ** Evidently I did. Words can be true even if a person is not a Christian or whether those words  matter to someone else.  They can even be true when spoken by an adulterer or a murderer, but once you have placed yourself in that category, do not expect people to heed your words as they would have had you kept yourself pure. Example:  Would you be more likely to believe Lance, or Ted Kennedy?  Tough choice, I know, but give me an answer. :) I agree with you, Terry: it is excellent advice. Did you miss my point altogether?   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant ** Bill Taylor wrote: Terry wrote  >  David and Calvin had things in common.  Both were believers, both were murderers, both took advantage of their friends.  My imperfections do not keep this from being true.  They were sinners, just as we are, and as such, are not fit for us to look to as roll models.  We might best keep our  eyes on the real King.  There are no great Christians, but there is a Great God.     I heard of a student who wrote a very long and detailed essay in which he argued that there is no such thing as truth, hence nothing matters. Upon reading the paper his professor gave him an F. This offended the student, who confronted the professor, demanding to know why he had received a failing grade. To which the professor responded, "What difference does it make?"   Your statement puts me in mind of this, Terry. I am puzzled by what appears to be your conclusion. Does there have to be "great" Christians for the words they speak to be true? I think not. We speak on the authority of Christ's greatness. If not, then on what basis ought I agree or disagree with -- or even give a darn about -- what you have to say about best keeping "our eyes on the real King"?    Bill =============================================================== I gave you excellent advice to keep your eyes on Christ.   Do what you want with it. Terry