DAVEH:
> It seems to me that your below non-religious examples
> are illogical, DavidM.   Let me give you an example.
> If I were to ask you, "Are you perfect before God?",
> you might answer from your perspective, "Yes."

Actually, no, I would not answer that way.

DaveH wrote:
> If on the other hand, I were to ask God, "Is DavidM
> is perfect?", he might view it differently.

Again, the only reason I might speak of people being perfect is because God 
himself declares some people to be perfect in addition to commanding them to 
be perfect.

DaveH wrote:
> Do you see what I am getting at?

I understand that you are pointing out that perception plays a role, but 
that seems to be exactly my point, which is why I am not sure why you would 
label my examples as "illogical."

Let me give you another example.  Have you ever looked at your own infant 
child lying asleep in the crib and thought to yourself, "what a perfect 
child."  Sure, your percption of that might be challenged when you are up at 
3:00 a.m. trying to figure out what you need to do to stop that "perfect" 
child from crying.  Nonetheless, my point was that we use the word "perfect" 
in many different ways, but when it comes to morality and loving your 
neighbor, somehow the word becomes taboo.  I think it is very interesting to 
consider why the word becomes taboo in that context.  It has to do with 
religious dogma, history, Calvinism's influence on Christianity, etc.

DaveH wrote:
> God is not asking us if we are perfect, he is commanding
> us to be such.  The question becomes what does perfection
> mean.  Fortunately, he qualifies it so that we don't have
> to worry about what or how man has defined perfection.
> As stated in Matthew, whatever perfection there is
> in God, that is how he commanded us to become.

Nicely stated, and while I agree that we don't have to worry about what or 
how man has defined perfection, the question was raised by Perry and the 
answer to his question does yield a greater understanding of the Scripture 
and its practical application to our lives.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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