Lance wrote: > If what you are saying is what he is saying.......No > Problemo!
Yes! Exactly. This is exactly what my father is saying. When you take your eyes off of yourself and learn to seek God then you will live a righteous life as a righteous, favored child of God. Somehow (it seems) you read our posts to say we should become obessed with obeidience to God, which should logically (and practically) lead to frusteration. But no, that frusteration shouldn't occur if you aren't being self-absorbed in your walk. However, (and I think this is where you became uncomfortable with my father's teachings) a follower of Christ WILL live righteously. Because of my love of God I will recognize gossip as it happens and rebuke those present or refuse to participate. But those who become frusterated, and wallow in their weakness, are doing just that: wallowing. They are not climbing out of it, and maturing to new levels of knowledge in Christ. When you truly love God, you will love Him in all you do. Another way of phrasing that is, when you truly love God, you will not sin in all you do. Better? Blessings! --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If what you are saying is what he is saying.......No > Problemo! I believe it > to be rather a common understanding. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Sent: July 07, 2005 12:33 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN > CHRIST > > > > Lance wrote: > > > Further, many will experience > > > unimaginable frustration over their > > > inability to attain to the unattainable. > > > > Is this event evidence of a false teaching? I > don't > > mind sharing with you that I was once frusterated > with > > myself about trying to live in holiness. I would > go a > > week without reading my Bible, and get depressed > with > > how I had not served God as I knew I should. Or I > > would participate in gossip, and later feel guilty > > about it. > > > > But this is not the kind of holiness my father is > > exhorting you to practice. That is a form of > > self-absorbed righteousness. The Lord showed me I > was > > trying to serve Him while keeping my eyes on > myself. > > > > If a person chooses to love God, and desires to > love > > and worship Him in everything they do, they will > not > > become frusterated in their walk, because their > > conscience will be clear. They walked in love, > they > > are full of God's love. Their focus is on their > God, > > rather than on themselves. The result is that I > will > > not usually forget to study my Bible. If I do > forget, > > I try to do better, but I do not experience > > frusteration over it, because I love God. My > > conscience is clear. What you are talking about is > a > > genuine concern, Lance, but my father is not > endorsing > > that kind of obeidience. > > > > > > Blessings! > > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I do understand. > > > > > > Now, we are back to this matter of > > > teaching/interpretation are we not, > > > David. > > > > > > Example:This teaching in question (not to you > but, > > > to others). You believe > > > it and, I'd assume that you also teach it. I > believe > > > that, at the very > > > least, every member of your family believes it > > > (whoops! not your wife as you > > > described her as a worrier). I'd also suppose > that > > > you teach it in your home > > > meeting. IFF (unthinkable for you, I know) you > have > > > not interpreted > > > Scripture correctly on this point, then you, > David, > > > have generated a > > > TRADITION. Further, many will experience > > > unimaginable frustration over their > > > inability to attain to the unattainable. Further > > > yet, you (should this > > > scenario be correct) you will have been > deceived. > > > Even further, one could > > > not but wonder at the source of this deception, > > > could one? > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > > > Sent: July 07, 2005 10:59 > > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE > IN > > > CHRIST > > > > > > > > > > Lance wrote: > > > > > YES YOU DO LIVE WITH THAT! > > > > > > > > Let me rephrase and see if we are talking > about > > > the same thing. I live > > > with > > > > tradition, but I do not live with the > tradition > > > that tradition overrules > > > > Scripture. 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