You mean you actually believe the Book?
Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1Th 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word
only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in
much ASSURANCE; as ye know what manner of men we were
among you for your sake.
--- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Doncha just luv it when people communicate with such
> CERTAINTY? Damn! Reminds me of...well....ME! (I
> refer to Christine & Kevin)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Deegan
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: July 08, 2005 14:50
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Works and the Book of
> James
>
>
> Be ye DOERS and NOT HEARERS only deceiving your
> own selves
> Same goes for TALKERS only
>
>
>
> Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Lance, of course James does NOT disagree with
> Paul. The difference is, Paul teaches that Abraham's
> faith is counted for righteousness, while James
> actually tells us what faith is. Works without faith
> will lead you to hell (that's Paul) and James says
> that true faith will produce works. People were
> getting it all out of order.
>
> Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these
> sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be
> likened unto a foolish man, which built his house
> upon the sand:
>
> Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods
> came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house;
> and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
>
>
> Blessings
>
> Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> No, Judy. YOUR problem is this 'God inspires
> MY reading of Scripture thing'. However, you are in
> good company as Kevin, Linda and, David have the
> same 'problem'.
>
> As an aside: it just might be that James does
> disagree with Paul.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy Taylor
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: July 08, 2005 09:08
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Works and the Book
> of James
>
>
>
> What for JD? Paul does not contradict James
> and James is not contradicting Paul. The
> contradiction is in your
> wide sweeping comprehension of this
> "incarnational" thing which is a doctrine of men
> rather than the Word
> of God. Just because the CofC misused God's
> Word does not mean we should throw out the parts
> they used
> to wound. Separate from them but hold fast
> to God's truth.
>
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:01:37 -0400
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm still waiting !! Jd
>
> From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> If all one is holding to is dead doctrine
> from some theologian - did they have salvation to
> begin with? One cannot
> lose what they never had to begin with.
> Jesus' Words are life giving - they will quicken
> your mortal body. jt
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You really do not have the foggiest as
> to what James is talking about in his letter, do
> you? Prove me wrong !! Tell me, what are the
> works of justification in the book of James? At
> what point are we saved -- at the point of faith or
> at the point of works? If we stop "working" do we
> suddenly lose our salvation? What is the
> definition of "works" in James? Why does James
> NOT contradict Paul's statement in Romans 4 that we
> are saved by faith apart from works of law?"
>
> I'm waiting !!!! JD
>
>
> From: Judy Taylor
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> James wrote it (James 2:14-20) - I'm
> agreeing with the Word of God
> and yes I don't see much grace in dead
> faith - do you Kevin? judyt
>
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:56:27 -0700
> (PDT) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> Faith w/o works is Dead....
> Are you saying it is a DEAD FAITH?
>
> Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> It's JD's way of saying that you
> are a works/salvationist rather than what he calls
> grace
> But no worries Christine - you
> have lots of good company :) We all know that faith
> or
> what some call grace without works
> (corresponding actions) is DEAD. judyt
>
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:52:31 -0700
> (PDT) Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> JD wrote:
> Christine, you are an excellent
> proponent of will worship.
>
> Thanks! What does that mean?
>
>
> Blessings
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Christine, you are an
> excellent proponent of will worship.
>
> Salute, Jd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christine Miller
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:46:35
> -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [TruthTalk] Sermon
> outline
>
>
> I thank you all for your interest in my teaching. I
> gave this message Wednesday night to the youth group
> at my church, which is a group of 30 middle and high
> school kids. So, this might be sophmoric for you
> all,
> but here it is. :-)
>
>
> "Separating your Spirituality from Ordinary Life."
>
> To the seven Churches on Judgement Day:
> Rev. 2:2- "I know thy works"
> 2:9- "I know thy works"
> 2:13- "I know thy works"
> 2:19- "I know thy works"
> Etc. A pattern is developing here, namely, that on
> Judgement day, Jesus will give attention to our
> works.
>
> Another account of Judgement Day, in the Gospel:
> Mat. 7:21-23-
> Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord,
> Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he
> that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
>
> Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord,
> Lord,
> have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name
> have cast out devils? and in thy name done many
> wonderful works?
> Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never
> knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
>
> My first reaction to this passage, is to wonder at
> Jesus' choice of words here. "Ye that work
> iniquity?!"
> Jesus could have just left it at "I never knew you"
> and sent them to Hell. They worked miracles and cast
> out devils. I would not consider that working
> iniquity. There is something here, then, that I am
> not
> seeing. I am not seeing the whole picture as Jesus
> is
> attempting to show it.
>
> Mat. 25:31-46
> This is where Jesus separates the sheep from the
> goats, and welcomes the sheep into everlasting life.
> The righteous respond by saying they did not
> remember
>
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